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Green River - June 15th, 2008
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PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.


RIVER FLOW INFORMATION-FLAMING GORGE - (Extracted from the Bureau of Reclamations Weekly Report). Flows are currently down ramping. Starting June 15 flows will reduce -500 cfs at 1:00 am daily until flows are at 1225 cfs on June 21, 2008. Ignore the chart below.

 

Daily Release Patterns

Hour CFS Hour CFS Hour CFS Hour CFS
100 0800 700 0800 1300 0800 1900 0800
200 0800 800 0800 1400 0800 2000 0800
300 0800 900 0800 1500 0800 2100 0800
400 0800 1000 0800 1600 0800 2200 0800
500 0800 1100 0800 1700 0800 2300 0800
600 0800 1200 0800 1800 0800 2400 0800

 

RIVER WATER TEMPERATURES-
Water temperature is 46.0 degrees. Checked 5/30/2008. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from Flaming Gorge dam.

WATER QUALITY- Water quality rated poor, fair, good or excellent is currently: DAM TO LITTLE HOLE= Clear, Ecellent LITTLE HOLE TO RED CREEK= Excellent.  BELOW RED CREEK= Running stained some of the time. Best to check locally before depending on conditions to be favorable enough to fish.

A NOTE ABOUT RED CREEK: Rain storms or early spring run-off may cause Red Creek (12 miles downstream from the dam) to flow on occasion, it's effect depends on how much flow is occurring into the river-just a little, not bad, a lot, cloudy but usually can be fished with streamers. A heavy flow will cause the lower Green River to run completely red at times and be entirely unfishable.

 AVAILABLE AQUATIC INVERTEBRATES, AQUATIC INSECTS AND TERRESTRIAL HATCHES:

 SCUDS-Yes, available all year
 MIDGES-Yes, adults- some activity, larva/pupae available in the drift all year. Most active in shady areas or on cool days.
 BAETIS- Yes, Spring Baetis, fading. 
 P.M.D's- Yes, A few have been observed.
 CALLIBAETIS- None.
 TRICOS-  None.
 CADDIS- Yes, several species. 
 STONEFLIES-Should be seeing Little Yellow Sallies soon. .
 CICADAS- Yes.
 MORMON CRICKETS- None.
 OTHER TERRESTRIALS-Ants, flying ants, beetles, baby hoppers and cicadas..

***FLY PATTERNS

 SCUDS- Scuds should be olive/gray, #16-22 or smaller if you want to match. the natural micro-scuds. Larger scuds (#14-10) in Tan, Pink and Orange as attractors are also effective.
 MIDGES- Pupa: brassie, red, olive, or black #20-24. Tie some with tungsten beads for weight (known as Zebra midges), others with glass beads for color. Adults: the most common adults are black, olive, or gray. Small Adams and simple adult midge patterns (#16 to #22) will work including clustering patterns such as a Griffiths Gnat, Two Bead Midge or the local Fuzzball.
 BAETIS- For Fall/Winter Baetis #22-26 Para Adams, BWO patterns. For Spring Baetis: #16-18 BWO patterns in low profile adult patterns. Compara-duns, parachutes, extended bodies. For emergers: #18-20 RS-2’s, WD 40’s in grey and olive bodies, pheasant-tail nymphs, tungsten zebra midges camel brown. Flashback versions of some of these patterns are useful. 
 PALE MORNING DUNS- Winger PMD’s or Compara-duns #14-16.
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 TRICOS- None.
 CALLIBAETIS- None.
 CADDIS- Elk Hair Caddis tan, peacock #16-14
 STONE FLIES- Little Yellow Sally Patterns #16-14.
 CICADAS- Boomers Cicadas, Elvira Cicadas, black para crickets. Hatch has sputtered when weather cold/wet, with warming trend they are responding. Good numbers, increasingly active .
 TERRESTRIALS- Yes, ants, flying ants, beetles, crickets, baby hoppers, cicadas. .
 ATTRACTORS- None.
 MORMAN CRICKETS- None.
 STREAMERS- Woolly Buggers 4_6, black, olive, tan, Goldilocks. Double Bunnies 2-4.

 

***THE "HOT" SIX

The fly list above suggests the available trout food and their imitations. Each week I will list the top six flies that were productive from the week before. The danger here is that things change from week to week, so while trends in fly selection can be consistent, keep in mind they do also change with current fishing conditions.

Many of the patterns for  higher  flows  should have color or flashbacks, anything that draws extra attention.

Small scuds- olive, grey #18-22
Blue Winged Olives: your choice of patterns #16-18. Compara-duns, Para BWO, Para extended bodies, Wingers, any other low profile dun pattern.

Para Crickets #18-10

Tungsten Zebra Midges #14-16 brown, wine, red.

Cicadas #12-8, various patterns, fish are showing increased selectivity. Olive colored cicadas have been effective.

Fat Alberts #14-8 Tan

RS2's and WD 40's (flashbacks) grey, olive or wine #18-24
 

Black Ants #18-12 regular, #10-8 longer shanked hooks.

Para Adams #22

Small scuds #18-14 olive or grey.

Streamers #2-6 Buggers in tan, black, olive, Goldilox Buggers, Double Bunnies, and because of recent stocked rainbows- a good rainbow imitation #4 or larger.


THE PAST WEEK IN REVIEW - RATED  5 

Sun, wind, rain, high water and cicadas were all in the mix last week. Our annual spring high releases lasted longer than any other year since this program started. We are now on a down ramp at -500 cfs a day until we reach 1225 cfs projected on June 21, 2008.

There are some of us here that remember the year where the flow releases from Flaming Gorge ran 8800 cfs most of the summer. We actually enjoyed that summer and had great fishing. But by now, this year anyway, we are happy to see the flows start down for many reasons.  First; we were not able to accomplish the flushing flow that we had so hoped would occur so why continue. The river needs it environmentally after the 2002 fire and the seven years of drought following it. Secondly; the combination of flows and weather raised havoc with many anglers and guides as well. The weather, in my opinion, the biggest culprit. It has been hard to give good advice out when changes day to day have been so radical. One day the sun is out and cicadas are king. The cold even wet weather takes over and the cicadas run for cover and a small smattering of Blue Wings are the only highlight of the day. Nymphing becomes tough, the river below Little Hole is fishing poor and most anglers fear it at high flows, so everyone runs over the A Section of the river and it is crowded. Some boats go early some late. In the end I received very interesting reports from the river, some anglers say it was not only good, but the best. Then, skilled anglers say that it wasn’t a very good day for them. Even guides run the scales up and down the success ladder.

What has happened over the past several days is that we have turned warm and the cicadas have been the highlight of the fishing day. Today (Sunday), the reports are that even the -500 cfs was helpful in making good fishing happen. The only downside to the decreasing flow will be when the river reaches near the bottom of the flows. Trout that have had a huge river to run around in will show increased spookiness to being run over again. Longer casts ahead and smaller tippets will be needed. 

The fish are already getting shy to the cicada patterns being fished. The freshly hatched cicadas will have some olive to them, so you might incorporate touches of it in your patterns. Droppers will increase your effectiveness during the slower periods or when the river is over busy.  But you would want to remove them when the top water action warrants it and return to them when fishing slows. Standard nymphs such as tungsten zebras,  scuds and RS-2’s/WD 40’s will continue to work.

Things to watch for in the near future are Pale Morning Duns and Little Yellow Sallies. 

P.S. - We welcome you to stop by for a visit with us in our fly shop located on the corner of the Highway 191 and the Little Hole Road in Dutch John. Our daily hours are 7:00 am to 7:00 pm Sunday through Thursday, until 8:00 pm Friday/Saturday. 
FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AHEAD- RATED 5.0 and higher.

Everything appears to be running several weeks behind this year. So, cicadas should last for most of June and other bugs will come along for the ride too. Pale Morning Duns are already appearing in small numbers. They will increase dramatically in the immediate future. Their stronghold is in low C Section into B Section and are well represented at times in C Section.  The Little Yellow Sallies stoneflies will too be joining us soon. Caddis, hoppers, ants beetles will also increase in species and add diversity. All three river sections should be good to fish.

THIS PAST WEEKS CROWD MONITOR-Rated 1 to 10, with one being an empty river and ten stay home. I posted this note last year and it is still appropriate! Important to remember: Waders: There are only two access points on the upper river, Little Hole and Spillway. Everyone has to enter at one of these two areas. It's not important how many people are there, but what you do to separate yourself from others makes for solitary fishing. If you are unwilling to walk a little, expect to fish with others. Boaters: Seems there are always a large number of novice boaters trying out their river skills, not all are successful, hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. The worst transgressions:  Following too close to others boaters, cutting too closely in front of other drifting boats, floating through or over another anglers fish, competing for fishing holes and fish already occupied by other boating or wading anglers. There's plenty of river and fish, let's give each other a little courtesy and room (i.e. try practicing the Golden Rule when it comes to our fellow anglers). This is supposed to be fun for us all!

These ratings are the lowest possible anytime.
Weekends A Section (Friday/Saturday)= 8-9 for fishermen, 2 for rafters.
B section (Friday/Saturday)= 2 for fishermen- 1 for rafters.
Weekdays, all sections =7-8

RECENT WEATHER
Daytime highs- 79 degrees
Night time lows, 38-42 degrees
This past week: Sunny, beautiful, windy, cold/wet, rain, recently hot.

***EVALUATION RATINGS
On occasions I'm asked about my rating numbers that are used to evaluate the fishing in this report. The questions are generally things like: do you ever rate the fishing a ten? You won't see a ten from me very often, it has to be consistently incredible for a ten rating. Though we do get incredible days, we seldom get a full week of it. Other comments are that I'm to conservative only rating the river at a five or six. So here it is: 1,2,3 very poor to poor; 4 below average; 5,6 average to good; 7 great; 8 excellent; 9 superb; 10 incredible. So you can see, a five or six rating is not a poor rating and should be a great time to fish the river.


Report Provided By

Denny Breer

Trout Creek Flies

photos Weather and Lunar Phases

Green River - May 30th, 2008
supplied by: Fishwest Outfitters
FISHING: Good maps
PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.


        RIVER FLOW INFORMATION-FLAMING GORGE - (Extracted from the Bureau of Reclamations Weekly Report). Spring releases from the dam will begin 6pm May 23, 2008 with flows going to 2500 cfs and will change to 4200 cfs at 6pm Saturday night May 24, 2008. Flows will remain there until further notice, projected duration of 5 to 14 days.



        Daily Release Patterns
        Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS
        100     0800     700     0800     1300     0800     1900     0800
        200     0800     800     0800     1400     0800     2000     0800
        300     0800     900     0800     1500     0800     2100     0800
        400     0800     1000     0800     1600     0800     2200     0800
        500     0800     1100     0800     1700     0800     2300     0800
        600     0800     1200     0800     1800     0800     2400     0800

        

RIVER WATER TEMPERATURES-
Water temperature is 46.0 degrees. Checked 5/30/2008. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from Flaming Gorge dam.

WATER QUALITY- Water quality rated poor, fair, good or excellent is currently: DAM TO LITTLE HOLE= With some of the smaller mountain streams  that flow into the Green River in runoff stage, the river has run dirtier the past 10 days or so. With higher flows, some dilution will occur after the higher flows settle in.  LITTLE HOLE TO RED CREEK= Stained.  BELOW RED CREEK= Running stained some of the time and Red at others from pre-runoff snow melt. Best to check locally before depending on conditions to be favorable enough to fish.

A NOTE ABOUT RED CREEK: Rain storms or early spring run-off may cause Red Creek (12 miles downstream from the dam) to flow on occasion, it's effect depends on how much flow is occurring into the river-just a little, not bad, a lot, cloudy but usually can be fished with streamers. A heavy flow will cause the lower Green River to run completely red at times and be entirely unfishable.

 AVAILABLE AQUATIC INVERTEBRATES, AQUATIC INSECTS AND TERRESTRIAL HATCHES:
- SCUDS-Yes, available all year
- MIDGES-Yes, adults- some activity, larva/pupae available in the drift all year.
- BAETIS- Yes, Spring Baetis.
- P.M.D's- None.
- CALLIBAETIS- None.
- TRICOS-  None.
- CADDIS- Yes, a few species starting to show.
- STONEFLIES- No.
- CICADAS- Yes..
- MORMON CRICKETS- None.
- OTHER TERRESTRIALS- None.

***FLY PATTERNS
- SCUDS- Scuds should be olive/gray, #16-22 or smaller if you want to match. the natural micro-scuds. Larger scuds (#14-10) in Tan, Pink and Orange as attractors are also effective.
- MIDGES- Pupa: brassie, red, olive, or black #20-24. Tie some with tungsten beads for weight (known as Zebra midges), others with glass beads for color. Adults: the most common adults are black, olive, or gray. Small Adams and simple adult midge patterns (#16 to #22) will work including clustering patterns such as a Griffiths Gnat, Two Bead Midge or the local Fuzzball.
- BAETIS- For Fall/Winter Baetis #22-26 Para Adams, BWO patterns. For Spring Baetis: #16-18 BWO patterns in low profile adult patterns. Compara-duns, parachutes, extended bodies. For emergers: #18-20 RS-2’s, WD 40’s in grey and olive bodies, pheasant-tail nymphs, tungsten zebra midges camel brown. Flashback versions of some of these patterns are useful.
- PALE MORNING DUNS-None.
- TRICOS- None.
- CALLIBAETIS- None.
- CADDIS- Elk Hair Caddis tan, peacock #16-14
- STONE FLIES- None.
- CICADAS- Boomers Cicadas, Elvira Cicadas, black para crickets.
- TERRESTRIALS- Yes, ants, flying ants, beetles, crickets, baby hoppers, a few cicadas. .
- ATTRACTORS- None.
- MORMAN CRICKETS- None.
- STREAMERS- Woolly Buggers 4_6, black, olive, tan, Goldilocks. Double Bunnies 2-4.

 

***THE "HOT" SIX

The fly list above suggests the available trout food and their imitations. Each week I will list the top six flies that were productive from the week before. The danger here is that things change from week to week, so while trends in fly selection can be consistent, keep in mind they do also change with current fishing conditions.

Many of the patterns for  higher  flows  should have color or flashbacks, anything that draws extra attention.

Small scuds- olive, grey #18-22
Blue Winged Olives: your choice of patterns #16-18. Compara-duns, Para BWO, Para extended bodies, Wingers, any other low profile dun pattern.

Para Crickets #18-10

Tungsten Zebra Midges #14-16 brown, red.

Copper Johns-red or copper #12-16

Large Scuds- Pink, orange #4-10

Steel wire Worms #6-4 red, fire orange, earth brown

San Juan Worms- all colors, red and fire orange dominant.

Glo-bugs- all colors #12-14

RS2's and WD 40's (flashbacks) grey, olive or wine #18-24
Cicadas #12-8

Small scuds #18-14 olive or grey.

Streamers #2-6 Buggers in tan, black, olive, Goldilox Buggers, Double Bunnies, and because of recent stocked rainbows- a good rainbow imitation #4 or larger.

THE PAST WEEK IN REVIEW - RATED  5-6

We remain cool for this time of year. Highs into the sixties, low seventies have been the norm. So it has been warm then, cool then warm, then cool………. That has caused the Yampa River to go up down too.  But since May 23 the Green River releases at Flaming Gorge have been steady at 4200 cfs.  Well, that’s mostly accurate. One night someone did a no-no and the river went to 800 cfs until early next morning when it was promptly raised. The initial projection was to maintain flows at 4200 cfs for 5-14 days. The Green River at the Jensen gage near Vernal (below the confluence of Yampa and Green Rivers is running close to the target of 18,800 cfs. It has bounced a little with weather changes, but looks as though we will see it for some time to come, making the fourteen days more likely than five days. 

So, now that we are at 4200 cfs and steady, how’s the fishing? Actually, in my opinion, better than the several weeks prior to the changes. It took a few days to get there. But right out of the gate anglers did well enough to make most happy.  And increased cicada activity has created even better fishing. We have had more than favorable fishing reports off the river by our guests and guides. Cicadas with  beadhead droppers have worked well. Especially higher up river in the A section, the lower reaches have been better nymphing.

Many of you have heard my position on these higher flows before, but to restate them briefly; I am more concerned about water quality than volume. The numbers sound huge, and it is more water than the bare bone basement flows we seem to endure year after year in the current Green River drainage drought that continues on despite good snow pack elsewhere.

 The main point is that the fishing has been good even with the higher flow levels and there’s no reason to stay home. While your favorite rock to fish from may be under water, the river creates new areas where the fish favor. So you may need to look at the river with fresh eyes and rediscover it. Look for the soft spots with slower water velocity where the fish will tend to move to. Look in the big pools and eddies for the where currents turn or swirl attracting debris, and in turn attracting fish by the concentration of food in the drift in those areas.

Here’s some high flow tips from last week.

By fishing larger flies, and brighter ones, (see “Hot Flies”) we have been able to catch lots of fish during these flows in the past. In fact, visiting anglers are often surprised when they manage to do better than imagined in higher flows.  So think big scuds, San Juan worms, flashbacks and others that draw attention to themselves. When the flows rise and break apart weed beds, it dislodges lots of feed that the fish take advantage of. The trout actually get fat in the short term.  There is a short term depression in bug production with the dismantling of the weed beds, but it quickly rebuilds and even vastly improves in the refreshed environment. The long term positive benefit for us environmentally, is the removal of some of the sediment from the 2002 Mustang Fire. We have requested even higher release this spring (10,000 cfs) but have not gotten any word to this request status at this time. The purpose for this request is to “refresh” the river even more.   The flows will remain at 4200 cfs for 5-14 days.

Cicadas are in the mix, we are finding their presence a welcomed sight again this year. High water and cicadas can go together. There are still a few BWO’s around (see next paragraph) and the smaller terrestrials are out. The other day there was a great flying ant hatch on the middle river.

The Blue winged Olives this year have been exceptional. They can still be important as a hatch in the higher flows and I expect them to be around as long as the weather remains cool/wet.  They most often mid to late morning (11:00 am to 1:00pm) to being most active 2:00 to 3:00 pm. But many of the current hatches have come late 4pm or later. The size of the naturals too has started to drop, #18 have been good but #20’s are becoming the better size.

Streamers, dry dropper rigs and 5-7 foot suspended nymph rigs will all be useful during the higher flows.
Thanks to everyone who responded to my “question”. I got some great and thoughtful responses and will respond to all who took time to participate. 

P.S. - We welcome you to stop by for a visit with us in our fly shop located on the corner of the Highway 191 and the Little Hole Road in Dutch John. Our daily winter hours are 7:00 am to 7:00 pm Sunday through Thursday, until 8:00 pm Friday/Saturday. We will be extending our hours as the season progresses.


FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AHEAD- RATED 5.0 and higher.

Don’t stay home because our flows are higher. There are many anglers in the know that plans their visits around these flows. Many mid stream fish will be forced to the edges and where the river takes away fishing lies it also creates many new ones that will hold fish. The flows will still be good for waders, just have to look for the slower velocity calmer water where the fish can hold in. Boaters will actually find the river easier to float. 

THIS PAST WEEKS CROWD MONITOR-Rated 1 to 10, with one being an empty river and ten stay home. I posted this note last year and it is still appropriate! Important to remember: Waders: There are only two access points on the upper river, Little Hole and Spillway. Everyone has to enter at one of these two areas. It's not important how many people are there, but what you do to separate yourself from others makes for solitary fishing. If you are unwilling to walk a little, expect to fish with others. Boaters: Seems there are always a large number of novice boaters trying out their river skills, not all are successful, hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. The worst transgressions:  Following too close to others boaters, cutting too closely in front of other drifting boats, floating through or over another anglers fish, competing for fishing holes and fish already occupied by other boating or wading anglers. There's plenty of river and fish, let's give each other a little courtesy and room (i.e. try practicing the Golden Rule when it comes to our fellow anglers). This is supposed to be fun for us all!

These ratings are the lowest possible anytime.
Weekends A Section (Friday/Saturday)= 6 for fishermen, 2 for rafters.
B section (Friday/Saturday)= 3 for fishermen- 1 for rafters.
Weekdays, all sections =4

RECENT WEATHER
Daytime highs- 35-79 degrees
Night time lows, 25-35 degrees
This past week: Sunny, beautiful, windy, cold/wet, rain.

***EVALUATION RATINGS
On occasions I'm asked about my rating numbers that are used to evaluate the fishing in this report. The questions are generally things like: do you ever rate the fishing a ten? You won't see a ten from me very often, it has to be consistently incredible for a ten rating. Though we do get incredible days, we seldom get a full week of it. Other comments are that I'm to conservative only rating the river at a five or six. So here it is: 1,2,3 very poor to poor; 4 below average; 5,6 average to good; 7 great; 8 excellent; 9 superb; 10 incredible. So you can see, a five or six rating is not a poor rating and should be a great time to fish the river.
 

Report provided by:

Denny Breer
Trout Creek Flies

 

 

Fishwest Outfitters & Guide Service
www.fishwestoutfitters.com
877.77.FLIES

photos Weather and Lunar Phases

Green River - May 8th, 2008
supplied by: Fishwest Outfitters
FISHING: Great maps
PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.


        RIVER FLOW INFORMATION-FLAMING GORGE - (Extracted from the Bureau of Reclamations Weekly Report). Average daily flows are flat 800-850 cfs until further notice.



        Daily Release Patterns
        Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS
        100     0800     700     0800     1300     0800     1900     0800
        200     0800     800     0800     1400     0800     2000     0800
        300     0800     900     0800     1500     0800     2100     0800
        400     0800     1000     0800     1600     0800     2200     0800
        500     0800     1100     0800     1700     0800     2300     0800
        600     0800     1200     0800     1800     0800     2400     0800

        

RIVER WATER TEMPERATURES-
Water temperature is 40.0 degrees. Checked 5/07/2008. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from Flaming Gorge dam.

WATER QUALITY- Water quality rated poor, fair, good or excellent is currently: DAM TO LITTLE HOLE= Excellent. LITTLE HOLE TO RED CREEK= Excellent BELOW RED CREEK= Running stained some of the time and Red at others from pre-runoff snow melt. Best to check locally before depending on conditions to be favorable enough to fish.

A NOTE ABOUT RED CREEK: Rain storms or early spring run-off may cause Red Creek (12 miles downstream from the dam) to flow on occasion, it's effect depends on how much flow is occurring into the river-just a little, not bad, a lot, cloudy but usually can be fished with streamers. A heavy flow will cause the lower Green River to run completely red at times and be entirely unfishable.

 AVAILABLE AQUATIC INVERTEBRATES, AQUATIC INSECTS AND TERRESTRIAL HATCHES:
- SCUDS-Yes, available all year
- MIDGES-Yes, adults- some activity, larva/pupae available in the drift all year.
- BAETIS- Yes, Spring Baetis.
- P.M.D's- None.
- CALLIBAETIS- None.
- TRICOS-  None.
- CADDIS- Yes, Winter Sedges. Fading
- STONEFLIES- Yes,  Slender Winter Stones. Fading
- CICADAS- Yes, a few, see report below.
- MORMON CRICKETS- None.
- OTHER TERRESTRIALS- None.

***FLY PATTERNS
- SCUDS- Scuds should be olive/gray, #16-22 or smaller if you want to match. the natural micro-scuds. Larger scuds (#14-10) in Tan, Pink and Orange as attractors are also effective.
- MIDGES- Pupa: brassie, red, olive, or black #20-24. Tie some with tungsten beads for weight (known as Zebra midges), others with glass beads for color. Adults: the most common adults are black, olive, or gray. Small Adams and simple adult midge patterns (#16 to #22) will work including clustering patterns such as a Griffiths Gnat, Two Bead Midge or the local Fuzzball.
- BAETIS- For Fall/Winter Baetis #22-26 Para Adams, BWO patterns. For Spring Baetis: #16-18 BWO patterns in low profile adult patterns. Compara-duns, parachutes, extended bodies. For emergers: #18-20 RS-2’s, WD 40’s in grey and olive bodies, pheasant-tail nymphs, tungsten zebra midges camel brown. Flashback versions of some of these patterns are useful.
- PALE MORNING DUNS-None.
- TRICOS- None.
- CALLIBAETIS- None.
- CADDIS- Elk Hair Caddis tan, natural is blond color, #10-8
- STONE FLIES- Rio Grande King Trude #14-16, Flying Ant Black #14-16.
- CICADAS- None.
- TERRESTRIALS- None.
- ATTRACTORS- None.
- MORMAN CRICKETS- None.
- STREAMERS- Woolly Buggers 4_6, black, olive, tan, Goldilocks. Double Bunnies 2-4.

 

***THE "HOT" SIX

The fly list above suggests the available trout food and their imitations. Each week I will list the top six flies that were productive from the week before. The danger here is that things change from week to week, so while trends in fly selection can be consistent, keep in mind they do also change with current fishing conditions.


Para Adams #20-26
Griffith's Gnat #20-24
Tungsten Zebra Midges #14-16 brown, red.
small scuds- olive, grey #18-22
Blue Winged Olives: your choice of patterns #16-18. Compara-duns, Para BWO, Para extended bodies, Wingers, any other low profile dun pattern.

Barr’s Emergers #16-20
Juju Baetis #18

RS2's and WD 40's grey, olive or wine #18-24
Streamers #2-6 Buggers in tan, black, olive, Goldilox Buggers, Double Bunnies, and because of recent stocked rainbows- a good rainbow imitation #4 or larger.
Keep a few cicada patterns handy!


 
GREEN RIVER MEMO 05/09/2008 PLEASE READ !

Responding to a press release from BOR on May 8, The Salt Lake Tribune (and possibly others) announced that flows at Flaming Gorge were to be increased starting Monday. In an e-mail today (May 9) that forecast has been postponed until further notice due to changes on the Yampa River.

THE PAST WEEK IN REVIEW - RATED  6.5

The river continued to fish well this past week, in fact it has been superb! Blue winged olives were still the masters of the river. The weather was milder and a little warmer. The one glitch was a generator test that came without any warning on Tuesday intermittently and for the early hours on Wednesday. Since the river hadn’t been changed much all winter, the increased flows broke a lot of debris free and dirtied the river the first day. The impacts were less the second day. We have been getting decent warning from the BOR about some of these tests, but with the possibility of needing to run the generators at full throttle in the near future, they were under the gun to make sure all was in order. Needless to say, guests losing half their day to dirty water was not good. We work hard to stay up with any possible changes, but when you get the e-mail after the flow changes and everyone has gone to the river…………..what can you do? We should not see any other changes until we enter the spring flow period. 

The river has been very quiet for a prime season on the Green River. Normally we see many more visitors than have been showing up. Just out of curiosity, is it the gas, economy or weather that might have kept you away from the river this year? If you feel like dropping me a short note at dbreer@union-tel.com I’d enjoy hearing from you and gaining a little insight.  

UNCHANGED FROM LAST WEEK-
Spring Flow Forecast- Five to fourteen days of 4600 cfs sometime late May. We get these flows every year and have no real issue with them. Fishing that flow has been very good over the years and many anglers plan their annual visits to be here at that timeframe. Our real interest is in actually seeing a higher flow than that to create some flushing action on the river. Since the 2002 fire we have had a number of environmental impacts to the river from ash and silt flows into the river. In addition, colonies of mud snails seem to thrive in these environments too. So we made a 10,000 cfs for two days proposal to help the river. WAPA was the only entity that protested the proposal, understandable since water not run through generators creates no dollars. They suggested we wait until a spill comes along naturally. Well, we have waited through 6 years of drought; the river needs it too badly to wait further. BOR has the proposal; we’ll see what they do with it.

We are starting to see runoff from some of the small creeks into the river. Surprising considering the cold air temperatures. But it is happening some days. The impacts are localized with the dirty water being diluted quickly after spilling into the river. Flashback nymphs and dark streamer counter this problem if you experience it. For now the river is running pretty clean.

Red Creek is still a problem off and on. Pre-runoff snow melt is already having its impact on the lower river. Cooler air temperatures slow its progress, warmer temperature speed it, and hot days accelerate it. So you may find this reach (below Red Creek) in various states ranging from clear to completely red and non- fishable. Might want to check locally before driving all the way just to fish that reach of the river.

The Blue winged Olives have been exceptional. They are the reason for, again this week, the higher ratings. Comments have ranged from very good to the best hatches they have ever seen.  Most years the hatches come mid to late morning (11:00 am to 1:00pm) to being most active 2:00 to 3:00 pm. But many of the current hatches have come late 4pm or later. The size of the naturals too has started to drop, #18 have been good but #20’s are becoming the better size. As long as we get the number of cold overcast days we are seeing, the BWO’s will remain important in the everyday fishing.

Any day that BWO’s are active, midges can also be a factor. Recently, the midges have often been the trout’s preference, even over the Baetis. So you have to watch for those shifts to or away from these hatches that will require different flies and setups to be most effective. Guess the point is that rising fish does not always mean Baetis. Ignore that and you might find yourself scratching your head. Black or red tungsten zebra midges have been good below and#22 Para Adams on top.

While it is really too early to tell what we’ve got, a few cicadas are in the report this week. Don’t get overly excited yet, but a few naturals have been found and some fish have taken cicada patterns. If the naturals don’t freeze out, we might have more to report next week. But on the safe side, carry a few cicada patterns with you on the river.  And don’t be afraid to fish them!

Down deeper, 10 foot rigs are not uncommon, glo-bugs and San Juan worms (flies of color) have worked well with smaller nymphs trailering has been the workhorse. Streamers have been extremely good most days. Size 2-4 buggers such as Goldilox and patterns in olive, pink and white are effective too.

Winter stones and a (snow sedge) caddis are additional insects to watch for on the river. They can add a little variety to the fishing experience. See above for recommended patterns.  

P.S. - We welcome you to stop by for a visit with us in our fly shop located on the corner of the Highway 191 and the Little Hole Road in Dutch John. Our daily winter hours are 7:30 am to 7:00 pm Sunday through Thursday, until 8:00 pm Friday/Saturday. We will be extending our hours as the season progresses.


FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AHEAD- RATED 5.0 and higher.

Baetis and midges are our strong suites into the immediate future. Cicadas and other terrestrials are on the move, do not forget them!

THIS PAST WEEKS CROWD MONITOR-Rated 1 to 10, with one being an empty river and ten stay home. I posted this note last year and it is still appropriate! Important to remember: Waders: There are only two access points on the upper river, Little Hole and Spillway. Everyone has to enter at one of these two areas. It's not important how many people are there, but what you do to separate yourself from others makes for solitary fishing. If you are unwilling to walk a little, expect to fish with others. Boaters: Seems there are always a large number of novice boaters trying out their river skills, not all are successful, hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. The worst transgressions:  Following too close to others boaters, cutting too closely in front of other drifting boats, floating through or over another anglers fish, competing for fishing holes and fish already occupied by other boating or wading anglers. There's plenty of river and fish, let's give each other a little courtesy and room (i.e. try practicing the Golden Rule when it comes to our fellow anglers). This is supposed to be fun for us all!

These ratings are the lowest possible anytime.
Weekends A Section (Friday/Saturday)= 6 for fishermen, 3 for rafters.
B section (Friday/Saturday)= 4 for fishermen- 1 for rafters.
Weekdays, all sections =3

RECENT WEATHER
Daytime highs- 35-69 degrees
Night time lows, 25-35 degrees
This past weeks=  blue sky, overcast, cold, often windy.

***EVALUATION RATINGS
On occasions I'm asked about my rating numbers that are used to evaluate the fishing in this report. The questions are generally things like: do you ever rate the fishing a ten? You won't see a ten from me very often, it has to be consistently incredible for a ten rating. Though we do get incredible days, we seldom get a full week of it. Other comments are that I'm to conservative only rating the river at a five or six. So here it is: 1,2,3 very poor to poor; 4 below average; 5,6 average to good; 7 great; 8 excellent; 9 superb; 10 incredible. So you can see, a five or six rating is not a poor rating and should be a great time to fish the river.
 

Report provided by:

Denny Breer
Trout Creek Flies

 

 

Fishwest Outfitters & Guide Service
www.fishwestoutfitters.com
877.77.FLIES

photos Weather and Lunar Phases

Green River - March 28th, 2008
supplied by: Fishwest Outfitters
FISHING: Good maps
PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.
RIVER FLOW INFORMATION-FLAMING GORGE - (Extracted from the Bureau of Reclamations Weekly Report).  Daily Release Patterns
Hour CFS Hour CFS Hour CFS Hour CFS100 0800 700 0800 1300 0800 1900 0800200 0800 800 0800 1400 0800 2000 0800300 0800 900 0800 1500 0800 2100 0800400 0800 1000 0800 1600 0800 2200 0800500 0800 1100 0800 1700 0800 2300 0800600 0800 1200 0800 1800 0800 2400 0800 
RIVER WATER TEMPERATURES-Water temperature is 39.0 degrees. Checked 3/28/2008. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from Flaming Gorge dam.
WATER QUALITY- Water quality rated poor, fair, good or excellent is currently: DAM TO LITTLE HOLE= Excellent. LITTLE HOLE TO RED CREEK= Excellent BELOW RED CREEK= Running stained some of the time and Red at others from pre-runoff snow melt. Best to check locally before depending on conditions to be favorable enough to fish.
A NOTE ABOUT RED CREEK: Rain storms or early spring run-off may cause Red Creek (12 miles downstream from the dam) to flow on occasion, it's effect depends on how much flow is occurring into the river-just a little, not bad, a lot, cloudy but usually can be fished with streamers. A heavy flow will cause the lower Green River to run completely red at times and be entirely unfishable.
AVAILABLE AQUATIC INVERTEBRATES, AQUATIC INSECTS AND TERRESTRIAL HATCHES:
SCUDS-Yes, available all year MIDGES-Yes, adults- some activity, larva/pupae available in the drift all year. BAETIS- Yes, Fall Baetis. P.M.D's- None. CALLIBAETIS- None. TRICOS-  None. CADDIS- None, rare.. STONEFLIES- None. CICADAS- None. MORMON CRICKETS- None. OTHER TERRESTRIALS- None.
***FLY PATTERNS
SCUDS- Scuds should be olive/gray, #16-22 or smaller if you want to match. the natural micro-scuds. Larger scuds (#14-10) in Tan, Pink and Orange as attractors are also effective. MIDGES- Pupa: brassie, red, olive, or black #20-24. Tie some with tungsten beads for weight (known as Zebra midges), others with glass beads for color. Adults: the most common adults are black, olive, or gray. Small Adams and simple adult midge patterns (#16 to #22) will work including clustering patterns such as a Griffiths Gnat, Two Bead Midge or the local Fuzzball. BAETIS- For Fall Baetis #22-26 Para Adams, BWO patterns. PALE MORNING DUNS-None. TRICOS- None. CALLIBAETIS- None. CADDIS- None. STONE FLIES- None. CICADAS- None. TERRESTRIALS- None. ATTRACTORS- None. MORMAN CRICKETS- None. STREAMERS- Woolly Buggers 4_6, black, olive, tan, Goldilocks. Double Bunnies 2-4. ***THE "HOT" SIX
The fly list above suggests the available trout food and their imitations. Each week I will list the top six flies that were productive from the week before. The danger here is that things change from week to week, so while trends in fly selection can be consistent, keep in mind they do also change with current fishing conditions.
Para Adams #20-26Griffith's Gnat #20-24Tungsten Zebra Midges #14-16 brown, red. small scuds- olive, grey #18-22Glo-bugs #12-14 all colorsSan Juan Worms, red #14-12.RS2's and WD 40's grey, olive or wine #18-24Streamers #2-6 Buggers in tan, black, olive, Goldilox Buggers, Double Bunnies, and because of recent stocked rainbows- a good rainbow imitation #4 or larger.
THE PAST WEEK IN REVIEW - RATED  4.5
It is that time of year to shake the winter dust off this report and get back to regular updates. We should start seeing some changes over the next weeks and months. I am adding the (Spring Fishing information) to this report. You might wish to review that information before heading to  the river. Winter is still able to play games with us. Cold and snow are still possible over the next month. But already we are seeing some of the beautiful spring weather that gets the blood boiling to get on the river and fish. Not that some days aren't still very cool and if the breeze picks up, whew! In preparation for upcoming visits to the river, don't leave your cold weather gear at home just yet.
There are two issues that you need to note.
First: Red Creek is running. Pre-runoff snow melt is already having it's impact on the lower river. Cooler air temperatures slow it's progress, warmer temperature speed it, hot days accelerate it. So you may find this reach (below Red Creek) in various states ranging from clear to completely red and  non fishable.
Second: There is a lot of interest about whether we are seeing our spring Baetis yet. Reported sightings have been very non-existent at this point. Rumors? A Few. But nothing to strike the gong for. As this hatch is one that be nature starts lower in the river, compounded by the fact that few anglers are visiting downriver, it is not surprising that reports are few. Historically we are on track. Only in the warmest of winters do we see these bugs earlier than now. That said, they should be well on their way and soon.
Current productive fishing centers around midging and streamers as the most productive approaches. Secondary is fishing nymphs deep. Lastly is large dry fly with dropper, sometimes they take the big bug, but not consistently enough to fish large dry only. So nothing has really changed from what we did all winter. Wherever sun reaches into the canyon there have been groups of fish working. They are not always noticeable with their smut rising. So you have to watch for them. At Little Hole, you don't have to travel far to get some great top water action. Timing has been best between 11:00 AM and 1-2:00 PM. That can vary some days. Very small flies #22-26 have been most effective. Down deeper, 10 foot rigs are not uncommon, glo-bugs and San Juan Worms (flies of color) have worked well with smaller nymphs trailering has been the workhorse. Streamers have been extremely good most days. Size 2-4 buggers such as Goldilox and patterns in olive, pink and white are effective too.
Winter stones and a (snow sedge) caddis are additional insect to watch for on the river. They can add a little variety to the fishing experience. See above for recommended patterns.
P.S. - We welcome you to stop by for a visit with us in our fly shop located on the corner of the Highway 191 and the Little Hole Road in Dutch John. Our Daily winter hours are 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM. We will be extending our hours as the season arrives.
***FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AHEAD- RATED 5.0 and higher.
Baetis will soon add to the existing midge hatches to create strong opportunities to surface fish. The hours prior to these hatches will bring lots of fish to the net, but you'll need to fish deep or suspend nymphs at the fish's level. Water temperatures will start climbing soon and that will stir the trout some. Overall, we have a special time of fishing on the river just ahead.
***SPRING FISHING INFORMATION 
As spring progresses there will be some big changes in the trout and insect activities from those of winter. Typically, longer days with longer periods of sunlight will move trout back towards reversal of what occurs in winter by their noticeable un-podding and re-stationing in the more typical river lies. This reversal will occur over time and overall create some great fishing. This Movement is further aided by the opening (around April) of the "Selective withdrawal structures" attached to the penstocks (outlets) at the dam. This "opening" provides the start of warmer temperatures through the dam and additional nutrients from the released water. Aquatic invertebrates will also become more active resulting in great midge and Baetis hatches. Midges should be active most every day until the air temperatures become consistently warm, I expect the strongest Baetis activity to start med-April, with the most consistent hatches late April and early May. The water temperatures will rise slowly, so still expect to find the most trout in the slower velocity water with fewer available in the fast/heavy river sections. This will continue until water temperatures reach close to the high forties. Many fish will have to be fished for deep with scuds and midge nymphs to be productive, but others will resume their bank hugging and feeding activities making them prime targets for anglers. The suspended pool eddied trout can be caught by suspending nymphs at 5 to 6 feet with an indicator or watch for them to start working near or just under the surface. The river should come into full bloom by mid-May with the return of our terrestrials such as the cicadas that are so important to our great surface fishing. 
THIS PAST WEEKS CROWD MONITOR-Rated 1 to 10, with one being an empty river and ten stay home. I posted this note last year and it is still appropriate! Important to remember: Waders: There are only two access points on the upper river, Little Hole and Spillway. Everyone has to enter at one of these two areas. It's not important how many people are there, but what you do to separate yourself from others makes for solitary fishing. If you are unwilling to walk a little, expect to fish with others. Boaters: Seems there are always a large number of novice boaters trying out their river skills, not all are successful, hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. The worst transgressions:  Following too close to others boaters, cutting too closely in front of other drifting boats, floating through or over another anglers fish, competing for fishing holes and fish already occupied by other boating or wading anglers. There's plenty of river and fish, let's give each other a little courtesy and room (i.e. try practicing the Golden Rule when it comes to our fellow anglers). This is supposed to be fun for us all!
These ratings are the lowest possible anytime.Weekends A Section (Friday/Saturday)= 1-2 for fishermen, 0 for rafters.B section (Friday/Saturday)= 0 for fishermen- 0 for rafters.Weekdays, all sections =0
RECENT WEATHERDaytime highs- 28-60 degreesNight time lows, 20 to 25 degreesThis past weeks=  blue sky, overcast, snow, cold.
***EVALUATION RATINGSOn occasions I'm asked about my rating numbers that are used to evaluate the fishing in this report. The questions are generally things like: do you ever rate the fishing a ten? You won't see a ten from me very often, it has to be consistently incredible for a ten rating. Though we do get incredible days, we seldom get a full week of it. Other comments are that I'm to conservative only rating the river at a five or six. So here it is: 1,2,3 very poor to poor; 4 below average; 5,6 average to good; 7 great; 8 excellent; 9 superb; 10 incredible. So you can see, a five or six rating is not a poor rating and should be a great time to fish the river.
 

Report provided by:

Denny Breer
Trout Creek Flies

 

 

Fishwest Outfitters & Guide Service
www.fishwestoutfitters.com
877.77.FLIES

photos Weather and Lunar Phases

Green River - September 20th, 2007
supplied by: Fishwest Outfitters
FISHING: Fair maps
PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.

        Average daily flow 835 cfs

        Daily Release Patterns
        Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS
        100     0800     700     0800     1300     0800     1900     0800
        200     0800     800     0800     1400     0800     2000     0800
        300     0800     900     0800     1500     0800     2100     0800
        400     0800     1000     0800     1600     0800     2200     0800
        500     0800     1100     0800     1700     0800     2300     0800
        600     0800     1200     0800     1800     0800     2400     0800

RIVER WATER TEMPERATURES-
Water temperature is 58.7 degrees. Checked 8/15/2007. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from Flaming Gorge dam.

WATER QUALITY- Water quality rated poor, fair, good or excellent is currently: DAM TO LITTLE HOLE= Excellent.  LITTLE HOLE TO RED CREEK= Excellent.  BELOW RED CREEK= Currently dirty. Recent rainstorms have kept this reach of the river un-fishable many recent days. Has fished well when clear.

A NOTE ABOUT RED CREEK: Rain storms or early spring run-off may cause Red Creek (12 miles downstream from the dam) to flow on occasion, it's effect depends on how much flow is occurring into the river-just a little, not bad, a lot, cloudy but usually can be fished with streamers. A heavy flow will cause the lower Green River to run completely red at times and be entirely unfishable.

 AVAILABLE AQUATIC INVERTEBRATES, AQUATIC INSECTS AND TERRESTRIAL HATCHES:
- SCUDS-Yes, available all year
- MIDGES-Yes, adults- some activity, larva/pupae available in the drift all year.
- BAETIS- Fall Baetis, very small #24 or smallers.
- P.M.D's- Yes.
- CALLIBAETIS- No. Should be some present in the lower river, but no reports.
- TRICOS-  Yes, Sporadically.
- CADDIS- Yes, several species available.
- STONEFLIES- Yes, Little Yellow Sallies.
- CICADAS- Gone.
- MORMON CRICKETS- None.
- OTHER TERRESTRIALS- Yes, ants, crickets, beetles and hoppers.

***FLY PATTERNS
- SCUDS- Scuds should be olive/gray, #16-22 or smaller if you want to match. the natural micro-scuds. Larger scuds (#14-10) in Tan, Pink and Orange as attractors are also effective.
- MIDGES- Pupa: brassie, red, olive, or black #20-24. Tie some with tungsten beads for weight (known as Zebra midges), others with glass beads for color. Adults: the most common adults are black, olive, or gray. Small Adams and simple adult midge patterns (#16 to #22) will work including clustering patterns such as a Griffiths Gnat, Two Bead Midge or the local Fuzzball.
- BAETIS- For Fall Baetis #22-26 Para Adams, BWO patterns. For Spring Baetis: #16-18 BWO patterns in low profile adult patterns. Compara-duns, parachutes, extended bodies. For emergers: #18-20 RS-2's, WD 40's in grey and olive bodies, pheasant-tail nymphs, tungsten zebra midges camel brown. Flashback versions of some of these patterns are useful.
- PALE MORNING DUNS- PMD duns #14-16.
- TRICOS- None.
- CALLIBAETIS- None.
- CADDIS- #14-16 Elk Hair Caddis, olive.
- STONE FLIES- Yellow Sally patterns #14-16 if you fish B or C sections.  
- CICADAS- -  #12-8 Boomers Cicada, Denny's Crystal Cicada, Elvira Cicada.
TERRESTRIALS- Flying ant patterns #14-16, cicada patterns #12-8.
- ATTRACTORS- Chernobyl ants, Fat Alberts tan or black #14-10..
- MORMAN CRICKETS- None.
- STREAMERS- Woolly Buggers 4_6, black, olive, tan, Goldilocks. Double Bunnies 2-4.

***THE "HOT" PATTERNS

    The fly list above suggests the available trout food and their imitations. Each week I will list the top flies that were productive from the week before. The danger here is that things change from week to week, so while trends in fly selection can be consistent, keep in mind they do also change with current fishing conditions. I used to limit this to six patterns but could not stick to my own number limits.

Chernobyl Ants #10-8 black or brown.
Para Hoppers #12-8 olive, tan or yellow.
Black ants #14-16
Fat Alberts, #10-14 black, tan.
Para-crickets#10-12 black.
Para Adams #18-26
Tungsten Zebra Midges #14-16 brown, red.
San Juan Worms, red #14-12.
GT Triple Double #14 olive.
Streamers #2-6 Buggers in tan, black, olive, Goldilox Buggers, Double Bunnies, and because of recent stocked rainbows- a good rainbow imitation #4 or larger.

THE PAST WEEK IN REVIEW - RATED 5.0

Afternoon thunderstorms have become regular events over the past several weeks.  The river below Red Creek has been running dirty on and off.  Once again it is running dirty, should clear in a day or two if there are no more regional storms. If you are planning to fish any part of the river below Red Creek, might be wise to make a call or two before coming to check current conditions.  While we are a little cooler than most of July, we still reach the eighties many days. The storms, if they come, are afternoon/evening events. 

I reported over the past several weeks, that the flows have been further reduced. The few late afternoon bumps we are seeing are small. Reservoir storage will reach this year will be at or less than 83 percent of full. Hot afternoon air temperatures often makes early to late morning fishing being the best, then again when it cools in late evening. Released water temperatures too have climbed to 58 degrees at the dam. Might help explain the lull experienced many days around 4 pm. The further you travel downstream, the warmer the water gets, and by the time it reaches the C Section, late afternoon water temperatures can be very warm. Just good to know that fishing can be slower in some parts of the day, great time to take a break.

Fishing reports have been decent. As with other times of year, anglers who have experience with this river have an advantage over those that are new to the area. Their reports have been on track with what we consider average fishing (which is often great fishing other places). The struggle for others is mostly over fly selection and whether to fish nymphs or dry flies. Nymphing is easiest and more productive for those with the least experience. Dry/dropper rigs have been good at times and have lost their productivity at times. Dry flies revolve around matching the few terrestrials or aquatic insect hatches that are around or fishing attractor style flies. Recent reports have tricos and small Baetis new to the mix. These are probably our small Fall Baetis #22-26 returning. Midges have been on the water in early morning hours and the fish in the shady areas have been on them. They dwindle fast in the sunshine. Late evening Caddis hatches were huge recently. They are still here, but smaller in volume and more inconsistent. Should you encounter them, Lower A Section and Upper B have been the strongest areas. But caddis activity is river wide, just stronger in those areas than others. PMD's remain active; Little Yellow Sallies in the B and C Sections are fading.

Terrestrials such as ants, beetles, small hoppers and crickets remain very important, especially to pick up slower periods during the day. But many anglers use them as their primary approach to fishing the river. Hoppers in particular have been very good.

Attractor flies can easily range from big to small. While many anglers don't look at it that way, attractor flies can be regular flies in uncommon sizes normally used to match hatches. #12-16 Parachute Adams, Renegades, Royal Wulffs, and Yellow Humpies are a few of the current patterns we are using in that way.  Don't give up on cicadas completely yet as effective fly patterns. The fish should still be active towards them even though their interest is far less than it has been. Besides cicadas, other dry flies are working too. Fat Albert's are another large fly that is doing well. Other patterns closely related to cicadas such as Para- Crickets, Peacock PMX's are turning heads as well.

The bottom fishing remains very good, just not many anglers pushing that agenda when the top water action is on. In slower periods of the day is when the beadhead droppers work well. Other producers include scuds, San Juan worms and small mayfly nymphs.

Lots of rafters on the weekends as families try to get that last trip to the river before school begins shortly.

P.S. - We welcome you to stop by for a visit with us in our fly shop located on the corner of the Highway 191 and the Little Hole Road in Dutch John. Our current hours are 7:00 am to 8:00 pm Sunday through Thursday, 7:00am to 9:00 pm Friday and Saturday...

FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AHEAD- RATED 6.0 and higher.

We should see a stabilization of fishing conditions until the fall weather starts to cool us. Some days will be great, others you'll have to work for the fish.

THIS PAST WEEKS CROWD MONITOR- Rated 1 to 10, with one being an empty river and ten stay home. I posted this note last year and it is still appropriate! Important to remember: Waders: There are only two access points on the upper river, Little Hole and Spillway. Everyone has to enter at one of these two areas. It's not important how many people are there, but what you do to separate yourself from others makes for solitary fishing. If you are unwilling to walk a little, expect to fish with others. Boaters: Seems there are always a large number of novice boaters trying out their river skills, not all are successful, hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. The worst transgressions:  Following too close to others boaters, cutting too closely in front of other drifting boats, floating through or over another anglers fish, competing for fishing holes and fish already occupied by other boating or wading anglers. There's plenty of river and fish, let's give each other a little courtesy and room (i.e. try practicing the Golden Rule when it comes to our fellow anglers). This is supposed to be fun for us all!

These ratings are the lowest possible anytime.
Weekends A Section (Friday/Saturday)= 7-8 for fishermen, 8-9 for rafters.
B section (Friday/Saturday)= 5-6 for fishermen- 6 for rafters.
Weekdays, all sections = 6

RECENT WEATHER
Daytime highs- 76-93 degrees
Night time lows, 50 degrees
This past weeks=  Blue sky/sunshine, warm, afternoon thunderstorms.

***EVALUATION RATINGS
On occasions I'm asked about my rating numbers that are used to evaluate the fishing in this report. The questions are generally things like: do you ever rate the fishing a ten? You won't see a ten from me very often, it has to be consistently incredible for a ten rating. Though we do get incredible days, we seldom get a full week of it. Other comments are that I'm to conservative only rating the river at a five or six. So here it is: 1,2,3 very poor to poor; 4 below average; 5,6 average to good; 7 great; 8 excellent; 9 superb; 10 incredible. So you can see, a five or six rating is not a poor rating and should be a great time to fish the river.

 

Report provided by:

Denny Breer
Trout Creek Flies

 

Fishwest Outfitters & Guide Service
www.fishwestoutfitters.com
877.77.FLIES

photos Weather and Lunar Phases

Green River - August 15th, 2007
supplied by: Fishwest Outfitters
FISHING: Good maps
PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.

        Average daily flow 835 cfs

        Daily Release Patterns
        Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS
        100     0800     700     0800     1300     0800     1900     0800
        200     0800     800     0800     1400     0800     2000     0800
        300     0800     900     0800     1500     0800     2100     0800
        400     0800     1000     0800     1600     0800     2200     0800
        500     0800     1100     0800     1700     0800     2300     0800
        600     0800     1200     0800     1800     0800     2400     0800

RIVER WATER TEMPERATURES-
Water temperature is 58.7 degrees. Checked 8/15/2007. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from Flaming Gorge dam.

WATER QUALITY- Water quality rated poor, fair, good or excellent is currently: DAM TO LITTLE HOLE= Excellent.  LITTLE HOLE TO RED CREEK= Excellent.  BELOW RED CREEK= Currently dirty. Recent rainstorms have kept this reach of the river un-fishable many recent days. Has fished well when clear.

A NOTE ABOUT RED CREEK: Rain storms or early spring run-off may cause Red Creek (12 miles downstream from the dam) to flow on occasion, it's effect depends on how much flow is occurring into the river-just a little, not bad, a lot, cloudy but usually can be fished with streamers. A heavy flow will cause the lower Green River to run completely red at times and be entirely unfishable.

 AVAILABLE AQUATIC INVERTEBRATES, AQUATIC INSECTS AND TERRESTRIAL HATCHES:
- SCUDS-Yes, available all year
- MIDGES-Yes, adults- some activity, larva/pupae available in the drift all year.
- BAETIS- Fall Baetis, very small #24 or smallers.
- P.M.D's- Yes.
- CALLIBAETIS- No. Should be some present in the lower river, but no reports.
- TRICOS-  Yes, Sporadically.
- CADDIS- Yes, several species available.
- STONEFLIES- Yes, Little Yellow Sallies.
- CICADAS- Gone.
- MORMON CRICKETS- None.
- OTHER TERRESTRIALS- Yes, ants, crickets, beetles and hoppers.

***FLY PATTERNS
- SCUDS- Scuds should be olive/gray, #16-22 or smaller if you want to match. the natural micro-scuds. Larger scuds (#14-10) in Tan, Pink and Orange as attractors are also effective.
- MIDGES- Pupa: brassie, red, olive, or black #20-24. Tie some with tungsten beads for weight (known as Zebra midges), others with glass beads for color. Adults: the most common adults are black, olive, or gray. Small Adams and simple adult midge patterns (#16 to #22) will work including clustering patterns such as a Griffiths Gnat, Two Bead Midge or the local Fuzzball.
- BAETIS- For Fall Baetis #22-26 Para Adams, BWO patterns. For Spring Baetis: #16-18 BWO patterns in low profile adult patterns. Compara-duns, parachutes, extended bodies. For emergers: #18-20 RS-2's, WD 40's in grey and olive bodies, pheasant-tail nymphs, tungsten zebra midges camel brown. Flashback versions of some of these patterns are useful.
- PALE MORNING DUNS- PMD duns #14-16.
- TRICOS- None.
- CALLIBAETIS- None.
- CADDIS- #14-16 Elk Hair Caddis, olive.
- STONE FLIES- Yellow Sally patterns #14-16 if you fish B or C sections.  
- CICADAS- -  #12-8 Boomers Cicada, Denny's Crystal Cicada, Elvira Cicada.
TERRESTRIALS- Flying ant patterns #14-16, cicada patterns #12-8.
- ATTRACTORS- Chernobyl ants, Fat Alberts tan or black #14-10..
- MORMAN CRICKETS- None.
- STREAMERS- Woolly Buggers 4_6, black, olive, tan, Goldilocks. Double Bunnies 2-4.

***THE "HOT" PATTERNS

    The fly list above suggests the available trout food and their imitations. Each week I will list the top flies that were productive from the week before. The danger here is that things change from week to week, so while trends in fly selection can be consistent, keep in mind they do also change with current fishing conditions. I used to limit this to six patterns but could not stick to my own number limits.

Chernobyl Ants #10-8 black or brown.
Para Hoppers #12-8 olive, tan or yellow.
Black ants #14-16
Fat Alberts, #10-14 black, tan.
Para-crickets#10-12 black.
Para Adams #18-26
Tungsten Zebra Midges #14-16 brown, red.
San Juan Worms, red #14-12.
GT Triple Double #14 olive.
Streamers #2-6 Buggers in tan, black, olive, Goldilox Buggers, Double Bunnies, and because of recent stocked rainbows- a good rainbow imitation #4 or larger.

THE PAST WEEK IN REVIEW - RATED 5.0

Afternoon thunderstorms have become regular events over the past several weeks.  The river below Red Creek has been running dirty on and off.  Once again it is running dirty, should clear in a day or two if there are no more regional storms. If you are planning to fish any part of the river below Red Creek, might be wise to make a call or two before coming to check current conditions.  While we are a little cooler than most of July, we still reach the eighties many days. The storms, if they come, are afternoon/evening events. 

I reported over the past several weeks, that the flows have been further reduced. The few late afternoon bumps we are seeing are small. Reservoir storage will reach this year will be at or less than 83 percent of full. Hot afternoon air temperatures often makes early to late morning fishing being the best, then again when it cools in late evening. Released water temperatures too have climbed to 58 degrees at the dam. Might help explain the lull experienced many days around 4 pm. The further you travel downstream, the warmer the water gets, and by the time it reaches the C Section, late afternoon water temperatures can be very warm. Just good to know that fishing can be slower in some parts of the day, great time to take a break.

Fishing reports have been decent. As with other times of year, anglers who have experience with this river have an advantage over those that are new to the area. Their reports have been on track with what we consider average fishing (which is often great fishing other places). The struggle for others is mostly over fly selection and whether to fish nymphs or dry flies. Nymphing is easiest and more productive for those with the least experience. Dry/dropper rigs have been good at times and have lost their productivity at times. Dry flies revolve around matching the few terrestrials or aquatic insect hatches that are around or fishing attractor style flies. Recent reports have tricos and small Baetis new to the mix. These are probably our small Fall Baetis #22-26 returning. Midges have been on the water in early morning hours and the fish in the shady areas have been on them. They dwindle fast in the sunshine. Late evening Caddis hatches were huge recently. They are still here, but smaller in volume and more inconsistent. Should you encounter them, Lower A Section and Upper B have been the strongest areas. But caddis activity is river wide, just stronger in those areas than others. PMD's remain active; Little Yellow Sallies in the B and C Sections are fading.

Terrestrials such as ants, beetles, small hoppers and crickets remain very important, especially to pick up slower periods during the day. But many anglers use them as their primary approach to fishing the river. Hoppers in particular have been very good.

Attractor flies can easily range from big to small. While many anglers don't look at it that way, attractor flies can be regular flies in uncommon sizes normally used to match hatches. #12-16 Parachute Adams, Renegades, Royal Wulffs, and Yellow Humpies are a few of the current patterns we are using in that way.  Don't give up on cicadas completely yet as effective fly patterns. The fish should still be active towards them even though their interest is far less than it has been. Besides cicadas, other dry flies are working too. Fat Albert's are another large fly that is doing well. Other patterns closely related to cicadas such as Para- Crickets, Peacock PMX's are turning heads as well.

The bottom fishing remains very good, just not many anglers pushing that agenda when the top water action is on. In slower periods of the day is when the beadhead droppers work well. Other producers include scuds, San Juan worms and small mayfly nymphs.

Lots of rafters on the weekends as families try to get that last trip to the river before school begins shortly.

P.S. - We welcome you to stop by for a visit with us in our fly shop located on the corner of the Highway 191 and the Little Hole Road in Dutch John. Our current hours are 7:00 am to 8:00 pm Sunday through Thursday, 7:00am to 9:00 pm Friday and Saturday...

FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AHEAD- RATED 6.0 and higher.

We should see a stabilization of fishing conditions until the fall weather starts to cool us. Some days will be great, others you'll have to work for the fish.

THIS PAST WEEKS CROWD MONITOR- Rated 1 to 10, with one being an empty river and ten stay home. I posted this note last year and it is still appropriate! Important to remember: Waders: There are only two access points on the upper river, Little Hole and Spillway. Everyone has to enter at one of these two areas. It's not important how many people are there, but what you do to separate yourself from others makes for solitary fishing. If you are unwilling to walk a little, expect to fish with others. Boaters: Seems there are always a large number of novice boaters trying out their river skills, not all are successful, hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. The worst transgressions:  Following too close to others boaters, cutting too closely in front of other drifting boats, floating through or over another anglers fish, competing for fishing holes and fish already occupied by other boating or wading anglers. There's plenty of river and fish, let's give each other a little courtesy and room (i.e. try practicing the Golden Rule when it comes to our fellow anglers). This is supposed to be fun for us all!

These ratings are the lowest possible anytime.
Weekends A Section (Friday/Saturday)= 7-8 for fishermen, 8-9 for rafters.
B section (Friday/Saturday)= 5-6 for fishermen- 6 for rafters.
Weekdays, all sections = 6

RECENT WEATHER
Daytime highs- 76-93 degrees
Night time lows, 50 degrees
This past weeks=  Blue sky/sunshine, warm, afternoon thunderstorms.

***EVALUATION RATINGS
On occasions I'm asked about my rating numbers that are used to evaluate the fishing in this report. The questions are generally things like: do you ever rate the fishing a ten? You won't see a ten from me very often, it has to be consistently incredible for a ten rating. Though we do get incredible days, we seldom get a full week of it. Other comments are that I'm to conservative only rating the river at a five or six. So here it is: 1,2,3 very poor to poor; 4 below average; 5,6 average to good; 7 great; 8 excellent; 9 superb; 10 incredible. So you can see, a five or six rating is not a poor rating and should be a great time to fish the river.

 

Report provided by:

Denny Breer
Trout Creek Flies

 

Fishwest Outfitters & Guide Service
www.fishwestoutfitters.com
877.77.FLIES

photos Weather and Lunar Phases

Green River - July 20th, 2007
supplied by: Fishwest Outfitters
FISHING: Good maps
PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.


Average daily flow 835 cfs

Daily Release Patterns
Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS
100     0800     700     0800     1300     0800     1900     0800
200     0800     800     0800     1400     0800     2000     0800
300     0800     900     0800     1500     0800     2100     0800
400     0800     1000     0800     1600     0800     2200     0800
500     0800     1100     0800     1700     0800     2300     0800
600     0800     1200     0800     1800     0800     2400     0800

RIVER WATER TEMPERATURES-
Water temperature is 58.0 degrees. Checked 7/12/2007. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from Flaming Gorge dam.

WATER QUALITY- Water quality rated poor, fair, good or excellent is currently: DAM TO LITTLE HOLE= Excellent.  LITTLE HOLE TO RED CREEK= Excellent.  BELOW RED CREEK= Excellent.

A NOTE ABOUT RED CREEK: Rain storms or early spring run-off may cause Red Creek (12 miles downstream from the dam) to flow on occasion, it's effect depends on how much flow is occurring into the river-just a little, not bad, a lot, cloudy but usually can be fished with streamers. A heavy flow will cause the lower Green River to run completely red at times and be entirely unfishable.

 AVAILABLE AQUATIC INVERTEBRATES, AQUATIC INSECTS AND TERRESTRIAL HATCHES:
- SCUDS-Yes, available all year
- MIDGES-Yes, adults- some activity, larva/pupae available in the drift all year.
- BAETIS- Rare.
- P.M.D's- Yes.
- CALLIBAETIS- None.
- TRICOS-  None.
- CADDIS- Yes, several species available.
- STONEFLIES- Yes, Little Yellow Sallies.
- CICADAS- Fading.
- MORMON CRICKETS- None.
- OTHER TERRESTRIALS- Yes, ants, crickets, beetles and hoppers.

***FLY PATTERNS
- SCUDS- Scuds should be olive/gray, #16-22 or smaller if you want to match. the natural micro-scuds. Larger scuds (#14-10) in Tan, Pink and Orange as attractors are also effective.
- MIDGES- Pupa: brassie, red, olive, or black #20-24. Tie some with tungsten beads for weight (known as Zebra midges), others with glass beads for color. Adults: the most common adults are black, olive, or gray. Small Adams and simple adult midge patterns (#16 to #22) will work including clustering patterns such as a Griffiths Gnat, Two Bead Midge or the local Fuzzball.
- BAETIS- For Fall Baetis #22-26 Para Adams, BWO patterns. For Spring Baetis: #16-18 BWO patterns in low profile adult patterns. Compara-duns, parachutes, extended bodies. For emergers: #18-20 RS-2’s, WD 40’s in grey and olive bodies, pheasant-tail nymphs, tungsten zebra midges camel brown. Flashback versions of some of these patterns are useful.
- PALE MORNING DUNS- PMD duns #14-16.
- TRICOS- None.
- CALLIBAETIS- None.
- CADDIS- #14-16 Elk Hair Caddis, olive.
- STONE FLIES- Yellow Sally patterns #14-16 if you fish B or C sections.   
- CICADAS- -  #12-8 Boomers Cicada, Denny’s Crystal Cicada, Elvira Cicada.
TERRESTRIALS- Flying ant patterns #14-16, cicada patterns #12-8.
- ATTRACTORS- Chernobyl ants, Fat Alberts tan or black #14-10..
- MORMAN CRICKETS- None.
- STREAMERS- Woolly Buggers 4_6, black, olive, tan, Goldilocks. Double Bunnies 2-4.

***THE "HOT" PATTERNS

The fly list above suggests the available trout food and their imitations. Each week I will list the top flies that were productive from the week before. The danger here is that things change from week to week, so while trends in fly selection can be consistent, keep in mind they do also change with current fishing conditions. I used to limit this to six patterns but could not stick to my own number limits.

Cicada #12-8, Boomers cicada black or olive, Denny’s Crystal cicada.
Black ants #14-16
Fat Alberts, #10-14 black, tan.
Para-crickets#10-12 black.
Para Adams #18-26
Tungsten Zebra Midges #14-16 brown, red.
San Juan Worms, red #14-12.
GT Triple Double #14 olive.
Streamers #2-6 Buggers in tan, black, olive, Goldilox Buggers, Double Bunnies, and because of recent stocked rainbows- a good rainbow imitation #4 or larger.

THE PAST WEEK IN REVIEW - RATED 6.0

7/20/2007 UPDATE:

Conditions have remained steady over this past week. The only change that is worth mentioning is that the below reported caddis hatches have become sporadic. This might be because the water flows are no longer raising late in the day, might not be the reason at all. Just know some days the caddis are stronger than others. With very warm air temperatures, water temperatures are climbing the further you travel from the dam. The C Section has been the most affected. There the fishing has gotten tougher than it had been, but not gone completely.  

FROM LAST WEEK.

If you have been watching the news there’s been lots of  news on fires in the west. Utah has had several fires, but none so near to cause us concern. The only impacts have been air quality and most days that has been slight or zero. Air temperatures have been reasonable too for July, most days into the eighties, occasionally into the low nineties. Lots of folks camping on the river and the weather has been great for that activity. The nights too have been good.  As I reported last week, the flows have been further reduced, but we were still seeing shifts in the flows late evening. The most recent BOR report states that even these flow changes will be reduced or restricted with the poor inflows into Flaming Gorge. The best that reservoir storage will reach this year will be at 83 percent of full.  Hot afternoon air temperatures often makes early to late morning fishing being the best, then again when it cools in late evening. Released water temperatures too have climbed to 58 degrees at the dam. Might help explain the lull on many days that has been around 4 pm. The further you travel downstream, the warmer the water gets, and by the time it reaches the C Section, late afternoon water temperatures can be very warm. Just good to know that fishing can be slower in some parts of the day, great time to take a break.

Midges have been on the water in early morning hours and the fish in the shady areas have been on them. They dwindle fast in the sunshine.

Late evening Caddis hatches have been huge over the past week. Lower A Section and Upper B have been the strongest areas. But caddis activity is river wide, just stronger in those areas than others. In the past, late evening caddis hatches have been hard to fish if you didn’t know they were present in time to react. Often by the time the noisy rises caught your attention, the action could be over. But the current activity has been so large that you can’t miss it. Caddis pupa and soft hackles in the early hatch stages have been effective too. Skittering caddis works along with the standard drifting of imitations. While I mention these late evening hatches, caddis have been active in other time frames and river sections during the day as well. So watch for them too.  Caddis patterns should be #14 with olive or amber bodies; our own GT Triple Double has been great for imitating them.

 Little Yellow Sallies have been good especially in B and C Sections. PMD’s in those areas too, but some days not very strong in numbers.  

 Terrestrials such as ants, beetles, small hoppers and crickets remain very important, especially to pick up slower periods during the day. But many anglers use them as their primary approach to fishing the river.

 Don’t give up on cicadas completely yet. The fish should still be active towards them even though their interest is far less than it has been. Besides cicadas, other dry flies are working too. Fat Alberts are another large fly that is doing well. Other patterns closely related to cicadas such as Para- Crickets, Peacock PMX’s are turning heads as well.

 The bottom fishing remains very good, just not many anglers pushing that agenda when the top water action is on. In slower periods of the day is when the beadhead droppers work well. Other producers include scuds, San Juan worms and small mayfly nymphs.

Overall fishing has remained good and a trip to the river worthwhile. Higher fuel prices have kept crowds slightly off this season. Not that we haven’t seen busy days, weekends have been, but many in between days have been quieter than normal.

P.S. - We welcome you to stop by for a visit with us in our fly shop located on the corner of the Highway 191 and the Little Hole Road in Dutch John. Our current hours are 7:00 am to 8:00 pm Sunday through Thursday, 7:00am to 9:00 pm Friday and Saturday...

FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AHEAD- RATED 6.0 and higher.

Cicadas are fading, but in their absence Caddis, PMD’s, Little Yellow Sallies, Golden Stones and a host of terrestrials are on tap. Fishing should remain at a high level. .   

THIS PAST WEEKS CROWD MONITOR-Rated 1 to 10, with one being an empty river and ten stay home. I posted this note last year and it is still appropriate! Important to remember: Waders: There are only two access points on the upper river, Little Hole and Spillway. Everyone has to enter at one of these two areas. It's not important how many people are there, but what you do to separate yourself from others makes for solitary fishing. If you are unwilling to walk a little, expect to fish with others. Boaters: Seems there are always a large number of novice boaters trying out their river skills, not all are successful, hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. The worst transgressions:  Following too close to others boaters, cutting too closely in front of other drifting boats, floating through or over another anglers fish, competing for fishing holes and fish already occupied by other boating or wading anglers. There's plenty of river and fish, let's give each other a little courtesy and room (i.e. try practicing the Golden Rule when it comes to our fellow anglers). This is supposed to be fun for us all!

These ratings are the lowest possible anytime.
Weekends A Section (Friday/Saturday)= 7-8 for fishermen, 5 for rafters.
B section (Friday/Saturday)= 5-6 for fishermen- 3 for rafters.
Weekdays, all sections = 6

RECENT WEATHER
Daytime highs- 86-93 degrees
Night time lows, 50 degrees
This past weeks=  Blue sky/sunshine, HOT, beautiful.

***EVALUATION RATINGS
On occasions I'm asked about my rating numbers that are used to evaluate the fishing in this report. The questions are generally things like: do you ever rate the fishing a ten? You won't see a ten from me very often, it has to be consistently incredible for a ten rating. Though we do get incredible days, we seldom get a full week of it. Other comments are that I'm to conservative only rating the river at a five or six. So here it is: 1,2,3 very poor to poor; 4 below average; 5,6 average to good; 7 great; 8 excellent; 9 superb; 10 incredible. So you can see, a five or six rating is not a poor rating and should be a great time to fish the river.

 

Report provided by:

Denny Breer
Trout Creek Flies

 

Fishwest Outfitters & Guide Service
www.fishwestoutfitters.com
877.77.FLIES

photos Weather and Lunar Phases

Green River - July 6th, 2007
supplied by: Fishwest Outfitters
FISHING: Good maps
PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.


        Average daily flow 835 cfs

        Daily Release Patterns
        Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS
        100     0800     700     0800     1300     0800     1900     0800
        200     0800     800     0800     1400     0800     2000     0800
        300     0800     900     0800     1500     0800     2100     0800
        400     0800     1000     0800     1600     0800     2200     0800
        500     0800     1100     0800     1700     0800     2300     0800
        600     0800     1200     0800     1800     0800     2400     0800

         

RIVER WATER TEMPERATURES-
Water temperature is 52.0 degrees. Checked 6/15/2007. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from Flaming Gorge dam.

WATER QUALITY- Water quality rated poor, fair, good or excellent is currently: DAM TO LITTLE HOLE= Excellent.  LITTLE HOLE TO RED CREEK= Excellent.  BELOW RED CREEK= Excellent.

A NOTE ABOUT RED CREEK: Rain storms or early spring run-off may cause Red Creek (12 miles downstream from the dam) to flow on occasion, it's effect depends on how much flow is occurring into the river-just a little, not bad, a lot, cloudy but usually can be fished with streamers. A heavy flow will cause the lower Green River to run completely red at times and be entirely unfishable.

 AVAILABLE AQUATIC INVERTEBRATES, AQUATIC INSECTS AND TERRESTRIAL HATCHES:
- SCUDS-Yes, available all year
- MIDGES-Yes, adults- some activity, larva/pupae available in the drift all year.
- BAETIS- Rare.
- P.M.D's- Yes.
- CALLIBAETIS- None.
- TRICOS-  None.
- CADDIS- Yes, several species available.
- STONEFLIES- Yes, Little Yellow Sallies.
- CICADAS- Fading.
- MORMON CRICKETS- None.
- OTHER TERRESTRIALS- Yes, ants, crickets, beetles and hoppers.

***FLY PATTERNS
- SCUDS- Scuds should be olive/gray, #16-22 or smaller if you want to match. the natural micro-scuds. Larger scuds (#14-10) in Tan, Pink and Orange as attractors are also effective.
- MIDGES- Pupa: brassie, red, olive, or black #20-24. Tie some with tungsten beads for weight (known as Zebra midges), others with glass beads for color. Adults: the most common adults are black, olive, or gray. Small Adams and simple adult midge patterns (#16 to #22) will work including clustering patterns such as a Griffiths Gnat, Two Bead Midge or the local Fuzzball.
- BAETIS- For Fall Baetis #22-26 Para Adams, BWO patterns. For Spring Baetis: #16-18 BWO patterns in low profile adult patterns. Compara-duns, parachutes, extended bodies. For emergers: #18-20 RS-2's, WD 40's in grey and olive bodies, pheasant-tail nymphs, tungsten zebra midges camel brown. Flashback versions of some of these patterns are useful.
- PALE MORNING DUNS- PMD duns #14-16.
- TRICOS- None.
- CALLIBAETIS- None.
- CADDIS- #14-16 Elk Hair Caddis, olive.
- STONE FLIES- Yellow Sally patterns #14-16 if you fish B or C sections.   
- CICADAS- -  #12-8 Boomers Cicada, Denny's Crystal Cicada, Elvira Cicada.
TERRESTRIALS- Flying ant patterns #14-16, cicada patterns #12-8.
- ATTRACTORS- Chernobyl ants, Fat Alberts tan or black #14-10..
- MORMAN CRICKETS- None.
- STREAMERS- Woolly Buggers 4_6, black, olive, tan, Goldilocks. Double Bunnies 2-4.

***THE "HOT" PATTERNS

    The fly list above suggests the available trout food and their imitations. Each week I will list the top flies that were productive from the week before. The danger here is that things change from week to week, so while trends in fly selection can be consistent, keep in mind they do also change with current fishing conditions. I used to limit this to six patterns but could not stick to my own number limits.

     
Cicada #12-8, Boomers cicada black or olive, Denny's Crystal cicada.
Black ants #14-16
Fat Alberts, #10-14 black, tan.
Para-crickets#10-12 black.
Para Adams #18-26
Tungsten Zebra Midges #14-16 brown, red.
San Juan Worms, red #14-12.
GT Triple Double #14 olive.
Streamers #2-6 Buggers in tan, black, olive, Goldilox Buggers, Double Bunnies, and because of recent stocked rainbows- a good rainbow imitation #4 or larger.

THE PAST WEEK IN REVIEW - RATED 6.0

UPDATE-

The 4th of July weekend has come and gone. The fire over the mountain became a matter of concern to many who thought that we were impacted by it. Lots of phone calls about it. We did have smoke that was bad several afternoons when the wind shifted wrong. But overall, they are making some progress on the fire on the other side of the mountain from us. We and the river are open! Our annual fireworks celebration went off well. The event, which included a band, was well attended. Fishing has been good. The only changes from the June 29th report are that we are reaching into the low nineties on air temperatures; centurion marks are possible for the near future. The flows have been further reduced, but we are still seeing shifts in the flows late evening. Caddis have been very active too. If you saw an old report pop up on our website- we are not sure how this happened.

 FROM LAST REPORT-

Our weather has settled into a summer routine with lots of sunshine, warmer temperatures and occasional wind and threatened rain showers. The mornings have been cool, afternoons reaching into the eighties. Along with the hot afternoon air temperatures comes early to late morning fishing being the best, then again until it cools in late evening. The lull on many days has been around 4 pm, not at all on other days. Just good to know that fishing can be slower in some parts of the day, great time to take a break.  Midges have been on the water in early morning hours and the fish in the shady areas have been on them. They dwindle fast in the sunshine. Cicadas are fading. Every day we hear fewer naturals buzzing in the trees and fewer on the water. Have to say this has been a banner year for them. As with most years, I expect that we will be fishing 'cicada' style patterns for months to come as the fish will have a memory imprint for one of their favored meals. That has been the history of other great cicada years. Replacing cicadas will be other aquatic and terrestrials insects. Caddis, PMD's, Little Yellow Sallies, Golden Stones and a host of terrestrials such as ants, beetles, small hoppers and crickets. Overall fishing has remained good and a trip to the river worthwhile. As the cicadas fade, many anglers are reverting to nymph fishing. And while that is productive, many anglers are doing above average on surface flies. Higher fuel prices have kept crowds slightly off this season. Not that we haven't seen busy days, weekends have been, but many in between days have been quieter than normal.

 Don't give up on cicadas completely yet. The fish should still be active towards them. Besides cicadas, other dry flies are working too. Fat Alberts are another large fly that is doing well. Other patterns closely related to cicadas such as Para- Crickets, Peacock PMX's are turning heads as well. But what I have noticed is that the small ant and caddis patterns are working. Caddis patterns should be #14 with olive bodies; our own GT Triple Double has been great for imitating them. Also, I have observed a small presence (growing daily on some stretches of the river) of PMD's and when they come Little Yellow Sallies are seldom far behind.

 Not many cicadas in the B Section, but reports have been favorable by some, not so by others. Larger fly patterns such as the Fat Alberts have done the job. PMD's have been decent on the C Section.

 The bottom fishing remains very good, just not many anglers pushing that agenda when the top water action is on. In slower periods of the day is when the beadhead droppers.

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FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AHEAD- RATED 6.0 and higher.

Cicadas are fading, but in their absence Caddis, PMD's, Little Yellow Sallies, Golden Stones and a host of terrestrials are on tap. Fishing should remain at a high level. .   

 

THIS PAST WEEKS CROWD MONITOR-Rated 1 to 10, with one being an empty river and ten stay home. I posted this note last year and it is still appropriate! Important to remember: Waders: There are only two access points on the upper river, Little Hole and Spillway. Everyone has to enter at one of these two areas. It's not important how many people are there, but what you do to separate yourself from others makes for solitary fishing. If you are unwilling to walk a little, expect to fish with others. Boaters: Seems there are always a large number of novice boaters trying out their river skills, not all are successful, hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. The worst transgressions:  Following too close to others boaters, cutting too closely in front of other drifting boats, floating through or over another anglers fish, competing for fishing holes and fish already occupied by other boating or wading anglers. There's plenty of river and fish, let's give each other a little courtesy and room (i.e. try practicing the Golden Rule when it comes to our fellow anglers). This is supposed to be fun for us all!

These ratings are the lowest possible anytime.
Weekends A Section (Friday/Saturday)= 7-8 for fishermen, 5 for rafters.
B section (Friday/Saturday)= 5-6 for fishermen- 3 for rafters.
Weekdays, all sections = 6

RECENT WEATHER
Daytime highs- 93 degrees
Night time lows, 50 degrees
This past weeks=  Blue sky/sunshine, HOT, beautiful.

***EVALUATION RATINGS
On occasions I'm asked about my rating numbers that are used to evaluate the fishing in this report. The questions are generally things like: do you ever rate the fishing a ten? You won't see a ten from me very often, it has to be consistently incredible for a ten rating. Though we do get incredible days, we seldom get a full week of it. Other comments are that I'm to conservative only rating the river at a five or six. So here it is: 1,2,3 very poor to poor; 4 below average; 5,6 average to good; 7 great; 8 excellent; 9 superb; 10 incredible. So you can see, a five or six rating is not a poor rating and should be a great time to fish the river.

photos Weather and Lunar Phases

Green River - June 7th, 2007
supplied by: Fishwest Outfitters
FISHING: Great maps
PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.


        Average daily flow at 1150 cfs. Expect 800 cfs in the AM, higher in the PM.

        Daily Release Patterns
        Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS     Hour     CFS
        100     0800     700     0800     1300     0800     1900     0800
        200     0800     800     0800     1400     0800     2000     0800
        300     0800     900     0800     1500     0800     2100     0800
        400     0800     1000     0800     1600     0800     2200     0800
        500     0800     1100     0800     1700     0800     2300     0800
        600     0800     1200     0800     1800     0800     2400     0800

        

RIVER WATER TEMPERATURES-
Water temperature is 48.0 degrees. Checked 6/7/2007. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from