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Green River - November 10th, 2004
supplied by: Fishwest Outfitters
FISHING: Good
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PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.
***RIVER FLOW INFORMATION-FLAMING GORGE -
Starting Friday, October 1, 2004 releases from Flaming Gorge Reservoir will be reduced from an average daily release of 1000 cfs to 800 cfs. This reduction will eliminate the daily fluctuations that have been occurring throughout the summer months. After the peak release on Thursday afternoon (September 30th) releases will be held constant at 800 cfs until further notice.
Inflows over the next 3 month (OCT, NOV, DEC) are forecasted to be 105,000 acre_feet (65% of normal). The 24 Month Study has not yet been completed as of this date.
RIVER WATER TEMPERATURE
Water temperature is 51 degrees. Checked 11/1/2004. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from Flaming Gorge dam.
***WATER QUALITY
Water quality rated poor, fair, good or excellent is currently: DAM TO LITTLE HOLE= Excellent (see note). LITTLE HOLE TO RED CREEK= Excellent. BELOW RED CREEK= Good to excellent but have been subject to running dirty at times.
NOTE ABOUT RED CREEK: Rain storms or early spring run-off may cause Red Creek (12 miles downstream from the dam) to flow on occasion, it's effects depend on how much flow is occurring into the river-just a little, not bad, a lot, cloudy but usually can be fished with streamers. A heavy flow will cause the lower Green River to run completely red at times and be entirely unfishable.
***AVAILABLE AQUATIC INVERTEBRATES, AQUATIC INSECTS AND TERRESTRIAL HATCHES:
SCUDS-Yes, available all year MIDGES-Yes, adults- some activity, larva/pupae available in the drift all year. Mostly early and late. BAETIS- Fall Baetis, hatches occuring will be very small #22-26. P.M.D's- None. CALLIBAETIS- None. TRICOS- None, possible as air temp’s decline. CADDIS- Fading fast. Smaller species sporadically, increasing are Fall or October caddis, large nocturnal species. STONEFLIES- None. CICADAS- None. MORMON CRICKETS- None. OTHER TERRESTRIALS-Ants, hoppers, beetles, crickets, are fast disappearing as the cold air temperatures arrive.
***FLY PATTERNS
SCUDS- Scuds should be olive/gray, #16-22 or smaller if you want to match. the natural micro-scuds. Larger scuds (#14-10) in Tan, Pink and Orange as attractors are also effective. MIDGES- Pupa: brassie, red, olive, or black #20-24. Tie some with tungsten beads for weight (known as Zebra midges), others with glass beads for color. Adults: the most common adults are black, olive, or gray. Small Adams and simple adult midge patterns (#16 to #22) will work including clustering patterns such as a Griffiths Gnat, Two Bead Midge or the local Fuzzball. BAETIS- Para Adams, Para BWO., Hackle Stackers, CDC Thorax BWO’s, #20-26. Emergers: WD 40's (olive, grey) RSII’s (grey), Pheasant tails, Tunsten Zebra midges (camel brown, grey, olive. PALE MORNING DUNS- None. TRICOS- Black spinners #22-24. CALLIBAETIS- None. CADDIS- GT Triple/double black #12-14, Peacock caddis #14-16. Elk Hair caddis orange #12-8 ( for Fall or October caddis). STONE FLIES- None. CICADAS- None, except as attractors. TERRESTRIALS- Still has a little relevance, but fading fast. Chernobyl Ants #8-10 black or brown, sailor ants #14-8. ATTRACTORS- None. STREAMERS- Woolly Buggers 4-6, black, olive, tan and goldilox. Double Bunnies 2-4.
***THE "HOT" SIX
The fly list above suggests the available trout food and their imitations. Each week I will list the top six flies that were productive from the week before. The danger here is that things change from week to week, so while trends in fly selection can be consistent, keep in mind they do also change with current fishing conditions.
Zebra tungsten midges, red, camel brown, black, gray #14-18 Scuds #10-18, Grey, olive, orange, pink.
Streamers #2-6 tan, black, olive and goldilox Buggers, Double Bunnies, etc. San Juan worms red #14 Two-bead midge #20-22 WD-40 or 50's #20-22 grey or olive. RS-II #20-24 grey or olive. Parachute Adams #22-26
WINTER SPECIALS
Once again we will be running our "Best of Day trips" for the winter. These winter prices will take place from November 1st to March 31st. Compare these rates with regular season rates of $375 for a guide per day and room at $85 per night.
Best of Day trip (one nights lodging and a 6 hour float) $325.00
Best of day trip without lodging $265.00
Full day winter trip $300.00
Full Winter Day trip with Room $365.00
Winter room rates are $67 per night (double occupancy).
Prices include guide, drift boat, flies, non-alcoholic beverages, and a stream side lunch, prices are subject to Utah state taxes.
THE PAST WEEK IN REVIEW-RATED - 4.0-5.0
Winter is slowly moving in on us. The mountains that were full of golden leaves and hunters over the past several weeks are soon to be barren of both. The Wasatch front and Uinta mountains have received an early burst of snow, near records for the month of October. In Dutch John, it has come more in the form of rain and has been lessened even further on the river. This week finally presented us with the first nights of sub-zero air temperatures even though some days are still reaching into the sixties. The fast vacancy of fishers is reflected by the weather patterns. In the past several falls, the season was extended with protracted periods of warmth and sunshine. I know for myself, that I put things off on preparing for colder temperatures, removing the garden hoses, stacking a fresh load of firewood near the house and other important activities that are better done before the frost sets in because I felt there was plenty of time ahead. I’m sure that I was not the only one caught un-prepared. We are still fishing well, not exceptionally though. Well enough to make a visit very worthwhile if you dress appropriately with some layered clothing.
The river’s water temperatures are still running high (51 degrees November 1, 2004) and still we are starting to see the beginnings of browns stacking up for the spawning event. Dry fly fishing has slowed dramatically. But in the sunnier sections of the canyon you can still expect at least some midge activity (early in the day typically) and small Fall Baetis sporadically when the right conditions prevail. The few lingering caddis and terrestrials will fade fast over the next week or so if they are not already done for. There is always a possibility of attracting a few trout still to a large dry now and again, but consider yourself lucky if you catch them in the mood to do it for long or often. Sub-surface is where you’ll need to spend your time to be most productive. You can dry dropper effectively, a large dry sometimes has move sensitivity than an indicator and you may benefit with that occasional surface take just mentioned. But for the most part, bouncing the bottom will be where the most productivity will occur. Flies with bright colors followed (tandemed) by more natural imitations of small Baetis, Midge larva and scuds will be the best approaches. The bright colored flies can be large scuds, glo-bugs or other similar flies that draw the attention of the trout. Pink is my favorite color followed by orange and chartreuse. Streamers too should not be ignored, especially as the larger browns move into shallower waters for the spawning activity which should remain active until early to mid-January. I have re-posted my annual section on "Winter Fishing" several paragraphs down. You might wish to review it before heading this way in winter.
P.S.- For the immediate future I am changing the frequency of this report to bi-weekly, possibly monthly until river information warrents an update. I will update any report with important information when it is significant. Consider any report current until it has been replaced. Regular weekly reports will re-start no later tyhan March 1, 2005.
FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AHEAD- RATED 4.0- and higher.
We still have some great fishing opportunities ahead with the brown trout moving for the spawn and water temperatures still favorable for active trout. Midge fishing is good in the shallow edges of the river where smutting trout still can be caught. Drop a nymph deep for some great fish or swing a streamer for the exceptional ones. Dress warm, limit your time on the river on the extreme days and you’ll enjoy the river in near solitude many of our winter days. You might wish to review the "Winter Fishing Information" posted below.
WINTER FISHING INFORMATION
While the following is good advice for this river, it may well be appropriate wherever you fish in the winter. As we approach the colder months on the river, remember, winter is a time when trout often use different habitats than they do in warmer times of the year. This transition will occur as the water temperatures drop. It is generally first apparent when the trout become noticeably less visible along the rivers banks and they retreat to the deeper and more sheltered/structured areas of the river to conserve energy. Anglers should respond to this in two ways: First- its time to start thinking about fishing deep with the scud and midge imitations that make up eighty percent of the trouts winter diet. Second-spend some time to locate the areas that hold the largest concentrations of trout. My typical winter approach is to fish to the fish, not just fish the water. So locate the trout first and don’t just fish blindly in the areas you’ve fished before. It just may be that the trout have moved out of the pool or areas that produced the best fishing for you this season. Remember the reason for these changes are to conserve energy, so more trout will be found in the slower velocity water and fewer will be available in the fast/heavy river sections. Closer to the dam, the fish are either deep in the runs or suspended in the eddies. The deep fish will have to be fished with scuds and midge nymphs to be productive. The eddie fish can be caught by suspending nymphs at 5 to 6 feet with an indicator or waiting/watching for them to work the surface. Near Little Hole, watch for midging activity by the trout, they will only be found in a few areas. Locating these trout may be your best opportunity to surface fish. Typical nymphing will take those trout that are in the riffles in this area.
THIS PAST WEEKS CROWD MONITOR-Rated 1 to 10, with one being an empty river and ten stay home. I posted this note last year and it is still appropriate! Important to remember: Waders: There are only two access points on the upper river, Little Hole and Spillway. Everyone has to enter at one of these two areas. It's not important how many people are there, but what you do to separate yourself from others makes for solitary fishing. If you are unwilling to walk a little, expect to fish with others. Boaters: Seems there are always a large number of novice boaters trying out their river skills, not all are successful, hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. The worst transgressions? Following too close to others boaters, cutting too closely in front of other drifting boats, floating through or over another anglers fish, competing for fishing holes and fish already occupied by other boating or wading anglers. There's plenty of river and fish, let's give each other a little courtesy and room (i.e. try practicing the Golden Rule when it comes to our fellow anglers). This is supposed to be fun for us all!
These ratings are the lowest possible anytime.
Weekends A Section (Friday/Saturday)= 2 for fishermen, 0 for rafters
B section (Friday/Saturday)= 1 for fishermen- 0 for rafters.
Weekdays, all sections = 1-2
RECENT WEATHER
Daytime highs- 42-68 degrees
Night time lows- 22-38 degrees
This past week- cold fronts, rain turning to snow.
***EVALUATION RATINGS
On occasions I'm asked about my rating numbers that are used to evaluate the fishing in this report. The questions are generally things like; do you ever rate the fishing a ten? You won't see a ten from me very often, it has to be consistently incredible for a ten rating. Though we do get incredible days, we seldom get a full week of it. Other comments are that I'm to conservative only rating the river at a five or six. So here it is: 1,2,3 very poor to poor; 4 below average; 5,6 average to good; 7 great; 8 excellent; 9 superb; 10 incredible. So you can see, a five or six rating is not a poor rating and should be a great time to fish the river.
Denny Breer
Trout Creek Flies
Fishwest Outfitters & Guide Service
www.fishwestoutfitters.com
877.77.FLIES
801.733.8858
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Green River - November 8th, 2004
supplied by: Western Rivers Flyfisher
FISHING: Good
The season is winding down on the Green. Towards the end of the month I will start a season summary and an outlook for 2005. But, before I do there is still some good fishing to be had on the Green and it should continue until the end of November. Last weeks storms produced great blue wing hatches and good streamer fishing. Look for midges to also start to fall into the mix. They are always there, but with the big bugs gone, they will focus again on these tasty little morsels. Now that the warmer weather has returned the hatches will be a little more inconsistent, yet good enough to still provide good dry fly and nymph fishing. There are some gorgeous blue wing days ahead of us, especially for November.
Like much of this fall, few anglers are making the drive as a result of potential weather problems. For those brave souls who have made the trip they have been rewarded with plenty of water to fish and good fishing. Even with the return of pleasant weather, there will still be decent dry fly and nymph fishing. What great weather and fishing to wind down the season. It is one of our favorite months. There is good dry fly fishing and the potential to stick a rather large trout on a streamer is never better.
Flows will remain at 800cfs until the spring, most likely the middle of may. This is an excellent flow for this time of year. However, if you are floating the river, use caution. Summers higher flows often mask a number of the Greens hazards. This is not the time of year when you would want to go for a swim, especially if you should be dumped from a boat.
The upcoming weather pattern with all the clouds around should produce some very good baetis hatches. This graceful mayfly prefers wet and cool weather as do most mayflies. Streamer fishing is good and getting better. For the best streamer fishing be on the water early and late. I prefer first light when using these big assualt flies. That may mean you will have to fish all day for days last light is also a good time. As you prepare for your travels check out the following link for current and extended weather condition at Green River Weather. Looking at the forecast, if you are a fair weather fly fisher, it does not get much better than what is predicted for this weekend and through next week.
Although attractor patterns are not producing as they were earlier in the year, these are still good flies to suspend your droppers from. Our fly of choice for fishing droppers is still the PMX (Parachute Peacock Madam X).
If you like fishing tiny flies, the prolific Green River midge hatches will become more of a factor in your fishing before and after the BWO hatch. On some November days look for Midges and BWO to mix. You will find the best midge fishing near the dam and the best Baetis hatches closer to Little Hole. In those areas where you have good hatches of both types of insects, a complex hatch, you may encounter one fish taking blue wings while another dines on midges. Mornings seem to find the most fish up on emerging midges. Patterns that are consistent producers are Syls Midge, CDC Parachute Midge, Black Beauty Emerger, Griffiths Gnat, and the Trailing Shuck Midge. Once the blue wing nymphs become active, a good BWO nymph pattern with a midge dropper can double your odds. Nymph patterns to compliment your dries and emergers are Mercers Micro May, WD-40, Black Beauty Emerger, Baetis Mymph and the Zebra Midge. These should be in a size #18-#22. Colors should be black, brown, and olive.
With streamer fishing picking up it is nice to have a bigger rod for chucking and ducking. This time of year, actually almost on any day, you may encounter a fair amount of wind. If you are fishing from a boat and have a 6 or 7 weight rod they can help make your life easy when casting streamers. If I had one rod to take this time of year it would be a medium fast 6 weight. My favorite rod of choice under these situations is the Winston Boron II. You can easily fish streamers, nymphs or the tinest of dry flies on thin 5X or 6X tippet. A 5-weight rod is also an excellent option. If you have a 5 and want to throw streamers, use some of the smaller, lighter patterns that we recommend: Platte River Special, Olive Matuka, or one of several Hale Bob Leeches.
Regradless of the weather predictions, you want to be prepared equipment and clothing wise. your time is valuable and if you want to make the most of your leisure time, be prepared. Mornings will be rather cool, with the potential for pleasant afternoons temperatures reaching the mid 40s. A raincoat is a must for for three reasons this time of year; protect one for the rain or snow, keep you drier if you should go for a swim and act as an excellent wind breaker should you need shelter from the wind. Wind on any day can drop temperatures significantly. Take several layers, even a back up layer of Capilene long underwear and socks should you accidentally go for a swim. You can find these along with an array of great layering pieces essential for fall fishing on our web site. Click on Western Rivers Flyfisher for used and new equipment, articles and condition reports other than the Green.
Overall fishing summary
Dry fly fishing continues to be good and will continue over the next several weeks as the weather dictates. Last weeks weather pattern generated falls best mayfly hatches. Look for the blue wings to start hatching between 11 and 3. For those out early, BWO spinners will begin laying their eggs just prior to the hatch. Looks for their clear wings shimmering in morning sun prior to desending to the water. This can create a complex situation as the spinners mix with the emerging duns. Probably the best pattern for this situation is the Hackle Stacker. This is another one of our guides favorite flies. Once the Greens trout switch to the emerging mayflies try either a CDC Emerger or a BWO Befus Emerger for those more selective fish.
Although it is difficult for most to resist fishing dry flies when trout are taking naturals from the surface, fishing nymphs will produce the most consistent fishing. Prior to the hatch, fish your nymphs a little deeper with an indicator or tight lining. Once the hatch begins the Greens trout will move from deeper water to more shallow water or feed closer to the waters surface. Adjust your fly depth and techniques to take advantage of the changing situations. Mix your patterns between BWOs and Midges since both aquatic insects will be present on and off throughout the day. Good patterns are the WD-40, Mercers Micro Mayfly, Zebra midges, Barrs BWO emerger, and the Black Beauty Emerger.
We have mentioned streamers in this report. Even so, most anglers seldom use these flies and the simple techniques used to fish them successfully. Our guides and staff love fishing streamers and look to this time of year as the best for fishing these big flies. Streamers will produce some great days spring and fall, especially on those days when the weather is wet and cool. At this juncture in the year, a floating line and long leader will work just fine. As we move into the end of the month and November a sink-tip line of some kind will prove to be more effective. Look for those areas, if you are fishing from shore, where you have a lot of structure; water that is 3 feet deep and slightly less. Fishing in this depth of water will find the most opportunistic and aggressive trout jumping on a well presented streamer pattern. Good streamer patterns that we prefer to fish this time of year are, Platte River Spider, Double Bunnies ( these should be fished with a sink tip to be effective because of their overall mass), Hale Bopp Leech, Zonkers, and Flash Frys. Although a Wooly Bugger will work, so will a Parachute Adams for a PMD, eventually. If you want to have success fishing streamers like any other fly fishing technique you must commit yourself. Stay with it, learn the techniques and you will find how fun and addicting this type of fishing is. A great book for fishing streamer is Kelly Galloups, Modern Streamers for Trophy Trout.
Hot Flies for the Green
Hackle Stacker #20-#22
Technique: This is an excellent BWO pattern since it does a good job of imitating both adult blue wings and spinners. As mentioned earlier it is one of our guides go to flies when these mayflies are hatching or returning to the river to lay their eggs. Fish it dead drift. When the hatch is prolific and trout are selectively keyed into these mayflies, select a single fish to present your fly to. Put yourself close enough, without spooking the fish, so that you can efficiently and accurately present the fly. This is the key to being successful under such challenging situations.
#18-#22 Mercers Olive Micro May
Technique: When nymph fishing the many prolific mayfly hatches of the west, we have found Mike Mercers patterns to be consistently effective. For spring and fall blue wings we prefer the olive Micro May. With a copper bead and epoxy back, this fly is a great imitation of our fall mayfly hatches. Sizes should be #18-#22. This fly can either be fished as a dropper or by itself. This fly is such a good patterns that we carry it in both tungsten and brass.
#20-#22 CDC Baetis Emerger
Technique: This small mayfly emerger is one of my favorites. Rene Harrop introduced this fly on the Henry’s Fork many years ago. It is one of my go to flies, especially when Provo River trout are being selective. If you have not fished much with CDC you will need to use Frog Fanny powdered floatant to keep this fly a float. Using silicone or paste floatants will matt the CDC feathers together and inhibit these naturally oily feathers. This pattern should be fished dead drift to be the most effective. It sits very low on or in the water and is as good a pattern as there is for fooling selective trout.
#4 Conehead Muddler
Technique: This conehead pattern has become a favorite of ours over the past several years. It is one of the patterns we will fish around the west this time of year, yet we failed to mention it earlier. We fish these Muddlers in Olive and Black. The long rabbit strip gives this fly great life. If by chance you are getting a number of pulls without hooking up, trim the tail some. This patterns long tail can result in short strikes. Although it will fish better with the longer tail, shortening it some will not reduce its overall effectiveness. If you are wade fishing, fish this pattern on a long leader, 0X to 1X. If you need to get deep, fishing this weighted pattern on a sinking line or sink tip will get your fly to the depth you want. When the weather is overcast or rivers are a little off color, we will select larger patterns. Under clear skies, once the sun is on the water we prefer more sparse flies: Platte River Special or Matukas.
#18-#20 BWO Winger Emerger
Technique:This delicate fly has been a favorite of ours since we discovered it several years ago. Wings tied from hackle tips produce a very life like imitation of this emerging mayfly. One of the keys to the effectiveness of this pattern is its sparse body. Actually the key to most good mayfly patterns is tying the body very sparse. The Winger Emerger is tied on a curved hook, putting the bulk of this pattern down in the surface film. When fishing hatches with a fair number of fish up, to be successful, pick a single fish out, a big one of course, and get as many impressions over your target as you can. They have many naturals to choose from, so its important that a trout sees you pattern and sees it often.
#18-#20 WD-40
Technique:This pattern is a mainstay at the Green and on many of our western waters. It will produce as well as anything this time of year when midges and blue wings are present. We fish this pattern the same as any of the nymph patterns we have recommended in this report.
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Green River - October 28th, 2004
supplied by: Four Seasons Flyfishers
FISHING: Great
Middle Green River Fishing Report- We have only a few weeks left of strong fishing. There are some massive Browns, MASSIVE. They are taking streamers with abandon and will eat all day long.
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Green River - October 18th, 2004
supplied by: Four Seasons Flyfishers
FISHING: Good
Middle Green River- Big time streamer action! The big fish are eating brown and yellow streamers known as Halloween or autumn colored buggers and streamers. We have captured some real monsters up there in the last few Weeks.
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Green River - October 4th, 2004
supplied by: Fishwest Outfitters
FISHING: Great
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PLEASE NOTE: HEADERS WITH AN *** preceding the title indicate no changes from the previous report.
RIVER FLOW INFORMATION-FLAMING GORGE -
Starting Friday, October 1, 2004 releases from Flaming Gorge Reservoir will be reduced from an average daily release of 1000 cfs to 800 cfs. This reduction will eliminate the daily fluctuations that have been occurring throughout the summer months. After the peak release on Thurday afternoon (September 30th) releases will be held constant at 800 cfs until further notice.
***RIVER WATER TEMPERATURE
Water temperature is 54 degrees. Checked 9/23/2004. Temperatures are BOR readings as released from Flaming Gorge dam.
***WATER QUALITY
Water quality rated poor, fair, good or excellent is currently: DAM TO LITTLE HOLE= Excellent (see note). LITTLE HOLE TO RED CREEK= Excellent. BELOW RED CREEK= Good to excellent but have been subject to running dirty at times.
NOTE ABOUT RED CREEK: Rain storms or early spring run-off may cause Red Creek (12 miles downstream from the dam) to flow on occasion, it's effects depend on how much flow is occurring into the river-just a little, not bad, a lot, cloudy but usually can be fished with streamers. A heavy flow will cause the lower Green River to run completely red at times and be entirely unfishable.
***AVAILABLE AQUATIC INVERTEBRATES, AQUATIC INSECTS AND TERRESTRIAL HATCHES:
SCUDS-Yes, available all year MIDGES-Yes, adults- some activity, larva/pupae available in the drift all year. Mostly early and late. BAETIS- Fall Baetis, hatches occuring will be very small #22-26. P.M.D's- Sporadically, mostly in the B section. CALLIBAETIS- Some, mostly below Red Creek Rapids. TRICOS- None, possible as air temp’s decline. CADDIS- Smaller species sporadically, increasing are Fall or October caddis, large nocturnal species. STONEFLIES- None. CICADAS- None. MORMON CRICKETS- None. OTHER TERRESTRIALS-Ants, hoppers, beetles, crickets.
***FLY PATTERNS
SCUDS- Scuds should be olive/gray, #16-22 or smaller if you want to match. the natural micro-scuds. Larger scuds (#14-10) in Tan, Pink and Orange as attractors are also effective. MIDGES- Pupa: brassie, red, olive, or black #20-24. Tie some with tungsten beads for weight (known as Zebra midges), others with glass beads for color. Adults: the most common adults are black, olive, or gray. Small Adams and simple adult midge patterns (#16 to #22) will work including clustering patterns such as a Griffiths Gnat, Two Bead Midge or the local Fuzzball. BAETIS- Para Adams, Para BWO., Hackle Stackers, CDC Thorax BWO’s, #20-26. Emergers: WD 40's (olive, grey) RSII’s (grey), Pheasant tails, Tunsten Zebra midges (camel brown, grey, olive. PALE MORNING DUNS- #14 PMD Para chute of Compara-dun. Yellow Humpies #14-18 TRICOS- Black spinners #22-24. CALLIBAETIS- #12/14 Callibaetis Thorax dun. CADDIS- GT Triple/double black #12-14, Peacock caddis #14-16. Elk Hair caddis orange #12-8 ( for Fall or October caddis). STONE FLIES- None. CICADAS- None, except as attractors. TERRESTRIALS- Chernobyl Ants #8-10 black or brown, sailor ants #14-8. ATTRACTORS- Royal Wulffs, Peacock PMX, Fat Alberts, vary sizes. STREAMERS- Woolly Buggers 4-6, black, olive, tan. Double Bunnies 2-4.
***THE "HOT" SIX
The fly list above suggests the available trout food and their imitations. Each week I will list the top six flies that were productive from the week before. The danger here is that things change from week to week, so while trends in fly selection can be consistent, keep in mind they do also change with current fishing conditions.
Zebra tungsten midges, red, camel brown, black, gray #14-18 Scuds #10-18, Grey, olive, orange, pink.
Streamers #2-6 tan, black, olive. Buggers, Double Bunnies, etc. GT Triple /double #12-16, purple, black Sailor Ants #8 long to 18 short. PMX Peacock #14 Para Cricket, black #12/10 Para Hoppers #10-14 Parachute Adams #22-26 THE PAST WEEK IN REVIEW-RATED - 5.5
September 30, 2004-
I will leave last weeks report intact for a while longer. The only significant change slated for this upcoming week is that the BOR is modifying the river flows to 800 cfs and steady (ceasing the daily fluctuation that has been occurring) until further notice.
From September 23, 2004-
We remain on the cool side of air temperatures for this time of year. Several nights have dipped down to 30 degrees, some days have been overcast with highs in the fifty/sixty range. We have had snow all around us in the past week, but we have only received rain at our elevation. The southern hurricane coming up through the western side of Mexico added to the already cooler than normal summer we were experiencing. So, fall has taken on a cooler weather pattern earlier this year. Salt Lake City is supposed to be eighty degrees today and we are in turn are supposedly to warm. Note my skepticism. The mountains are in full color with the changes in foliage, they are just beautiful!
Though we have had some rain showers effecting the lower river’s water quality, for the most days it has ran pretty clear. Water temperatures themselves have started to drop (2 degrees since last report) with the cooler air temperatures effecting reservoir temperatures. But they are still fairly high, enough so that we still get some surface feeding fish. It surprises lots of anglers that even when its cold that we are still able to fish the big dries effectively. The daily changes of flows that have been occurring over the summer have been downsized slightly in range from 800-1500 cfs to 850-1400 cfs. One note of change since the last report has been the steady increase of Fall Baetis on the river. They can be a source of frustration for anglers who struggle to fish micro flies. It takes a pattern such as a Parachute Adams in the size 22 or smaller to do well trying to fish their hatch. Past that, we are still where we were fishing wise over the past month. I did feel that the reports coming in were strong enough that I bumped the fishing rating a little this report to reflect it. For those who have noticed, my reports have averaged every two weeks lately. Not sure, except for winter, when we have settled in on such a stable period of conditions during the heart of the season. The weather may have varied, but the fishing undaunted. In past years we have had periods of Indian Summer in October that have been beautiful. With the onset of earlier cool weather this fall, not sure where we are headed. But the fishing has been showing its ability to hold strong.
With the addition of Fall Baetis and in the near future, more midges, the river has improved slightly hatchwise. Stronger hatches are usually weather related. Caddis (including the "Fall" or "October" caddis) and Tricos are still in the mix for possibilities to encounter. We continue to remain very dependent on our terrestrial base (ants, beetles, hoppers, crickets, etc.) and attractor flies up top and the standards of Glo-bugs, San Juan worms and scuds down deep. Smaller dry flies are a good way to pick off individual fish. While you can fish the dry/dropper setup, most of my guides have been able to fish the majority of the time on the surface with single flies. Hopper patterns have been very strong as well as the Chernobyl ants and other ant versions such as the sailor ants. Brown versions of the ant patterns have at times out performed the black. We are still experiencing the change in river flows from 850-1400cfs around 12:30 to 1:30 pm daily. The biggest impacts to the fishing have been as the flows recede in late afternoon, but they eventually recover. Reports coming in over the last several weeks remain of good fishing by the majority of anglers. As in the past several reports, angler numbers are currently down. Weekends are showing the most traffic.
CAUTION: Watch for shifts in flow patterns, Western Area Power has emergency powers to change flows abruptly. Those who wade across the river are most likely the ones who would be impacted most.
FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AHEAD- RATED 5.0 or higher
The fall months are always a great time to visit the Green River. It ‘s our last real chances to fish the big bugs on top when the weather is fair. We get many "Indian Summer " days along with the beautiful fall foliage colors that typify autumn in the mountains. Weather can start to vary with possibilities of even snow when a cold front hits us right. It is a great time to fish the river. Water temperatures will remain high with the river supplied from the surface water of the reservoir. Typically the river water temperatures remain in the fifties into early November. Fewer anglers will be also be a draw. Fall Baetis, October caddis, tricos, midges and browntrout preparing for the spawning season are all on tap.
THIS PAST WEEKS CROWD MONITOR-Rated 1 to 10, with one being an empty river and ten stay home. I posted this note last year and it is still appropriate! Important to remember: Waders: There are only two access points on the upper river, Little Hole and Spillway. Everyone has to enter at one of these two areas. It's not important how many people are there, but what you do to separate yourself from others makes for solitary fishing. If you are unwilling to walk a little, expect to fish with others. Boaters: Seems there are always a large number of novice boaters trying out their river skills, not all are successful, hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. The worst transgressions? Following too close to others boaters, cutting too closely in front of other drifting boats, floating through or over another anglers fish, competing for fishing holes and fish already occupied by other boating or wading anglers. There's plenty of river and fish, let's give each other a little courtesy and room (i.e. try practicing the Golden Rule when it comes to our fellow anglers). This is supposed to be fun for us all!
These ratings are the lowest possible anytime.
Weekends A Section (Friday/Saturday)= 4 for fishermen, 1-2 for rafters
B section (Friday/Saturday)= 3 for fishermen- 1 for rafters.
Weekdays, all sections = 2-4
RECENT WEATHER
Daytime highs- 55-78 degrees
Night time lows- 30-45 degrees
This past week. -cold/ overcast, periods of rain.
***EVALUATION RATINGS
On occasions I'm asked about my rating numbers that are used to evaluate the fishing in this report. The questions are generally things like; do you ever rate the fishing a ten? You won't see a ten from me very often, it has to be consistently incredible for a ten rating. Though we do get incredible days, we seldom get a full week of it. Other comments are that I'm to conservative only rating the river at a five or six. So here it is: 1,2,3 very poor to poor; 4 below average; 5,6 average to good; 7 great; 8 excellent; 9 superb; 10 incredible. So you can see, a five or six rating is not a poor rating and should be a great time to fish the river.
Denny Breer
Trout Creek Flies
Fishwest Outfitters & Guide Service
www.fishwestoutfitters.com
877.77.FLIES
801.733.8858
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Green River - October 1st, 2004
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FISHING: Good
Upper Green River Fishing Report- The Green River is one of the best for big trout this fall. We have seen some excellent trout already this year. The bwo hatch will be getting very good by the end of the month.
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Green River - July 15th, 2004
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FISHING: Good
Upper Green River Fishing Report- There are still some great fish being caught but will begin to slow this month. Water tepmeratures will begin to reach into the low 70's and fishing will slow dramtically. I'd recommend waiting till early fall.!
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Green River - May 29th, 2004
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FISHING: Good
Green River Fishing Report- The Green river has been very good for us lately. Mark and Robn were just up there. Their clients landed some very nice fish on the lower stretch through the Seedskadee. They were nymph fishing for the most part, but we have had reports of cicadas. If that is the case, fish large dry flies near the shoreline and hold on tight!
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Green River - May 23rd, 2004
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FISHING: Good
Green River Fishing Report- There are some big fish already being caught. We should start to see some cicadas by the end of the month. The fish have been holding in drop-offs and riffle depressions eating baetis nymphs, san juan worms and black leeches. By mid-June the Cicadas should be full force.
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Green River - March 29th, 2004
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FISHING: Good
Green River-The Green Below Flaming Gorge is fishing very well. They have been seeing some very strong midge hatches for over a month. The baetis are just beginning to hatch. The best days to fish are overcast. The fish will come up and slurp a dry or emerger quite well.
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